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Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by kbutler »

saycheese wrote: post #130
nkkollaw wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huge difference. If you're in a country where they sell the Surface Book, go take a look and you'll immediately notice that there is a _lot_ more vertical space.

Did you even look at the graphic I linked to? If so, there’s no need to “go look” at anything, since that graphic very clearly shows there’s not a major difference.

The graphic minimizes the apparent difference by splitting it between top and bottom and maintaining the same diagonal size. 3:2 gives 18% more vertical space in the same width https://www.popsci.com/gadgets/article/2013-02/lets-get-rid-...

If you're doing primarily vertical tasks (coding, web pages, etc.), the taller aspect ratio can be really helpful.

That said, I've mostly made my peace with 16:9. Write shorter functions (that's good anyway) and throw bars over to the side instead of top and bottom.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by nkkollaw »

saycheese wrote: post #130
nkkollaw wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huge difference. If you're in a country where they sell the Surface Book, go take a look and you'll immediately notice that there is a _lot_ more vertical space.

Did you even look at the graphic I linked to? If so, there’s no need to “go look” at anything, since that graphic very clearly shows there’s not a major difference.

Whatever you say.

Here's a better image though, rather than a really weird bunch of lines for camera sensors: https://wolfcrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/43169aspectc...

It's about 20% more vertical space, as you can see (and you have to put together the top and bottom, which is a lot more impressive).

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by kbutler »

martinsb wrote: post #146
torgard wrote: post #98

Max 8gb for regular display... I mean, who uses touch screens for development? I can't really imagine a scenario where it would be helpful for me. Maybe when doing work in Illustrator and Photoshop, but I usually use a different machine for that anyhow, because of Adobe's lack of Linux support. I don't want to pay for something I won't use. I am otherwise actively looking for a laptop. System76 does not have European…

I have previous generation XPS 13 Developer Edition with hi-res touch screen. I chose the touch screen mainly because of the high resolution it provides however while using it I realized that touch screen can be quite useful sometimes. My best use case is reading long documents while commuting by train with the laptop in my lap. I find swiping with my thumb much more convenient than scrolling or pressing up/down keys…

Try pressing space (or page down on keyboards with pg down).

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by nkkollaw »

ebbv wrote: post #123
nkkollaw wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The reason 16:9 displays are now common is not because of movies. When they came on the scene most people said "Wow this is nice." What's so nice about them (besides of course for movies)? Most content consumed on computers is textual (websites?), so why would you have something wider than taller?

I just answered that in the comment you're replying to. Let me itemize it for you and add another one: - I don't need more vertical space, it won't alleviate the need to scroll. - I can put two nicely sized windows side by side and say, watch a scrolling log file while writing code or working in a terminal. - My desk is wide, having wide monitors makes good use of the space available without needing as many monitors.…

Yes of course, it depends on your workflow.

I switch between apps and I often keep windows almost maximized.

I also only do web work, so I look at webpages all day.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by aleksei »

maxxxxx wrote: post #71

How is the trackpad on these? I still haven't seen a non-Apple laptop where the trackpad comes even close to the Macbook.

Wow, I've had a completely different experience to others.

I think the trackpad is great, comparable to my Air 13 although slightly wanting in tap to click. No palm detection issues. I guess you just need to give it a try yourself.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by darkerside »

kbutler wrote: post #151
saycheese wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you even look at the graphic I linked to? If so, there’s no need to “go look” at anything, since that graphic very clearly shows there’s not a major difference.

The graphic minimizes the apparent difference by splitting it between top and bottom and maintaining the same diagonal size. 3:2 gives 18% more vertical space in the same width https://www.popsci.com/gadgets/article/2013-02/lets-get-rid-... If you're doing primarily vertical tasks (coding, web pages, etc.), the taller aspect ratio can be really helpful. That said, I've mostly made my peace with 16:9. Write shorter fu…

Aren't screen sizes typically based on that diagonal size (i.e. a 15" screen is a diagonal 15")? If so, doesn't that make parent's link more accurate?

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by kingosticks »

torgard wrote: post #98

Max 8gb for regular display... I mean, who uses touch screens for development? I can't really imagine a scenario where it would be helpful for me. Maybe when doing work in Illustrator and Photoshop, but I usually use a different machine for that anyhow, because of Adobe's lack of Linux support. I don't want to pay for something I won't use. I am otherwise actively looking for a laptop. System76 does not have European…

I'm confused, it sounds like you want a European keyboard layout, and the European configurations go up to 16GB with a normal display:

> i7 | 16GB | 512GB | FHD non-touch (1920 x 1080)

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by Jarwain »

kbutler wrote: post #153
martinsb wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have previous generation XPS 13 Developer Edition with hi-res touch screen. I chose the touch screen mainly because of the high resolution it provides however while using it I realized that touch screen can be quite useful sometimes. My best use case is reading long documents while commuting by train with the laptop in my lap. I find swiping with my thumb much more convenient than scrolling or pressing up/down keys…

Try pressing space (or page down on keyboards with pg down).

I can understand the OP's thinking, although I have Lenovo's Yoga 2 Pro.

With my laptop in my lap, I typically have to be leaning back to comfortably use the keyboard. Sitting up or slightly leaning forward, it's more comfortable to grasp and scroll with the screen itself, maybe bent a little further back than typical usage. It's a more comfortable resting position.

Although sometimes I just flip my yoga into a tablet and that's just swell

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Post by kingosticks »

paulmd wrote: post #117
kingosticks wrote: post #80

My XPS 13 9350 is undoubtedly the best computer I've ever owned. I don't seem to have this coil whine thing or I just don't notice it. The 8GB of RAM has served me well and I'd never want to sacrifice any of the battery life for increasing that - it's an ultrabook after all. I've always run Ubuntu and while I did have problems with WiFi and resuming when it first came out, they are both rock solid now. I have never t…

Coil whine can easily be tested with this website (probably not a good link if you have epilepsy or Chiari malformations) https://thume.ca/screentunes/ In my experience virtually all LCD displays have it to some degree, you just don't notice it except with certain patterns (like that one) that interact with the scanout mechanism.

I'm not sure why I would actively seek it out - ignorance is bliss.
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