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Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
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Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apparently it's getting loaded anyway for some people that say they had "Studies" disabled and/or "Studies" itself became re-enabled. The whole idea of slipping paid advertorial content into what are billed as "research" kind of gives the lie to this whole thing and is why I never turn these on in any product. Which is also why it's now "opt-out" by default, and why it will eventually not be an option at all. It's al…
Firefox Studies aren't new, and aren't opt-out by default. They're opt-in per study, in fact. The code to run them comes with Firefox, that's it. All this HN link is is someone asking what the add-on is, not proclaiming it did anything.
about:studies->Preferences shows "Allow Firefox to install and run studies" is enabled on my copy of Firefox 57.0.2(OSX). I don't remember opting in at install time, was it hidden behind some innocuous-sounding checkbox?
Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't just need "Studies" enabled, you also need to explicitly opt-in to each specific study on an individual basis: > Participation in an individual study is opt-in Source: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Shield/Shield_Studies If that didn't happen in this case, then I suspect it's probably a bug.
> you also need to explicitly opt-in Wrong, as far as I see: Looking in my about:config, I see app.shield.optoutstudies.enabled=true browser.onboarding.shieldstudy.enabled=true enabled by default . The settings that I've changed from the default are shown in bold. These aren't bold. Those are the defaults. Everybody can check. That means that the user must actively take steps to disable them, if he knows that they ex…
It looks like experiments are previews of potential new features, like letting you pop a video out of a page https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/min-vid?utm_source...
Whereas studies collect usage data.
Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
#154Looks like it's a promo for Mr Robot, which is really not ok. > What's happening? Are you a fan of Mr Robot? Are you trying to solve one of the many puzzles that the Mr Robot team has built? You’re on the right track. Firefox and Mr Robot have collaborated on a shared experience to further your immersion into the Mr Robot universe, also known as an Alternate Reality Game (ARG). The effects you’re seeing are a part of…
Seems kind of like it is part of an ARG. I can't say I'm totally against something like that; Mozilla's gotta make money somehow, and as long as it's not selling out user privacy it's a better tradeoff than Chrome.
I believe the idea is that Mr. Robot fans use Firefox to participate in the ARG, not that Firefox users suddenly start watching Mr. Robot. So if anything I'd expect that Mozilla pays Mr. Robot for this.
Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
#155Just checked and saw the Looking Glass add-on installed on my work laptop.
I've uninstalled Firefox and will be removing it from all of my computers. I had just started slowly migrating back to it with the performance enhancements in the latest update, but honestly I don't think I can get past a breach of trust at this level.
Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
#156This happened to me yesterday, so I looked for it. The Extension actually does nothing, but invert (make them upside down) a few words on specific sites. It's an experiment called "PUG ARG" to check whether page contents sniffing works. Its page doesn't reference any Bugzilla issue or Wiki page, while https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Shield/Shield_Studies/Queue doesn't list it. The source code references https://supp…
Wow, FF is sniffing the content and changing words. Could not think of anything worse a web browser could do. Do they change political arguments on pages in the future to see how I react in a user study? Signed Mr. Guinea Pig
That's ridiculous, since FF is literally fetching and rendering that content, being its raison d'être.
You can't "sniff" what is already yours to begin with.
Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
#157HOLD THE PHONE The support thread links to https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/lookingglass . That page says, in a clearly delineated box, > No changes will be made to Firefox unless you have opted in to this Alternate Reality Game. PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS INCONSISTENCY.
Even if installed, the add-on only initializes if `extensions.pug.lookingglass` is set to true in about:config. That preference defaults to false.
Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
#158https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/lookingglass The Mr. Robot series centers around the theme of online privacy and security. One of the 10 guiding principles of Mozilla's mission is that individuals' security and privacy on the internet are fundamental and must not be treated as optional. The more people know about what information they are sharing online, the more they can protect their privacy. ...which you've d…
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Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
#159Looks like it's a promo for Mr Robot, which is really not ok. > What's happening? Are you a fan of Mr Robot? Are you trying to solve one of the many puzzles that the Mr Robot team has built? You’re on the right track. Firefox and Mr Robot have collaborated on a shared experience to further your immersion into the Mr Robot universe, also known as an Alternate Reality Game (ARG). The effects you’re seeing are a part of…
> Looks like it's a promo for Mr Robot, which is really not ok.
From what I've heard (I work for Mozilla), this is promo for Firefox. As I just wrote elsewhere in this thread: I believe the idea is that Mr. Robot fans use Firefox to participate in the ARG, not that Firefox users suddenly start watching Mr. Robot. So if anything I'd expect that Mozilla pays Mr. Robot for this.
Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
#160https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/lookingglass The Mr. Robot series centers around the theme of online privacy and security. One of the 10 guiding principles of Mozilla's mission is that individuals' security and privacy on the internet are fundamental and must not be treated as optional. The more people know about what information they are sharing online, the more they can protect their privacy. ...which you've d…
If you clicked on the link about shield studies you'd see it says they're opt in, did you not getting prompted about it?
I remember this prompt (sending Mozilla crash/performance data) and disabled it a long time ago, and I don't have the add-on currently.
Often these days I disable every "Help us with information" box, both on close/commercial software and even open source software. I mean I'd like the help the community, but I really no longer like submitting any type of tracking information or even debugging information. Everyone is already clamoring for my data, and I guess it's more of a mentality of I don't want to give it away for free. They already get so much for free.
I'll still file a bug report on bugzillas and compile stack traces on faults. But I want to do it myself, explicitly.