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F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

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Re: F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

#151

Common response on HN for the past two months has been nothing short of hyperbolic. "The world will end if NN is repealed". Speaking as a conservative: When Obama was president, I got told the same thing about the ACA. The world will end, the sky is falling, America is finished. But eight years later, here I am, nothing's that much worse. I have no reason to believe this is "the beginning of the end" of anything. Lif…

Wow, typical response from an ignorant Republican. Read about net neutrality so you can comment on it intelligently.

Re: F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

#152
post #26

Friendly reminder that economists surveyed are far more likely to be for paid prioritization than against http://www.igmchicago.org/surveys/net-neutrality-ii

> Net neutrality is a fiction. Hire Akamai (et al.) to mirror your servers worldwide to speed content to your users.

- David Autor

this is an infuriating argument. distributing your content throughout a network of servers to decrease rtt and increase cache hits is how the internet is supposed to work. giving priority to powerful corporations in an already congested network infrastructure, on the other hand, is anti-consumer and promotes monopolization.

Re: F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

#153

This has made me feel pretty damn powerless, as pretty much every site/person of significance has stated their opposition to such a repeal, and yet they went through it anyway. Just a gut feeling that our democracy isn't working properly when such a loud and clear, great majority of the population messaging is completely ignored.

> our democracy isn't working properly Democracy doesn't work through public declarations, it works through elections. One year ago, the states chose Donald Trump as president, knowing they he would end Net Neutrality [1]. If a population wants to send a different message, they must do it in the next election [2]. [1] https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/53260835850816716... [2] https://swingleft.org/

You're just saying your democracy isn't working properly, just for different reasons.

Most Trump supporters did not elect trump "knowing ... he would end Net Neutrality", and a statement from 2014 does not disprove that (a cursory glance at r/TrumpCriticizesTrump/ kinda makes the point).

The US public is atrociously misinformed as a whole, either due to lack of education or bad media incentives or both. In order to function, a democracy requires an informed public.

Re: F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

#154

Edit: You know what, fuck it. I don't think I can say anything here that hasn't been said a thousand times already.

It's been mentioned already in this thread, Ajit Pai was appointed to the FCC by President Obama, a democrat.

Yes but any Republican would have taken this action. Pai was appointed because by convention (or possibly requirement) the commission is composed of two Democrats and two Republicans, and is chaired by a commissioner of the President's choosing.

Saying Pai is Obama's fault is disingenuous, because he had to appointment a Republican, and any Republican chair would implement Republican policy.

Re: F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

#155
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He did run on "drain the swamp" which meant getting rid of people that do things like this. The problem is that people believed him.

"Drain the swamp" means different things to different people.

One of the joyous things about political messaging lately!

Other dual-meaning phrases that have been abused of late:

* Fake news

* voter fraud

* Election rigging

* Collusion

* Corruption

What else do we have?

Re: F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

#156
post #85

If you voted for Trump, this one's on you.

Sorry but the two are not correlated, as much as I'd like to agree. Trump appointed Carr. Obama appointed O'Rielly and Pai. This one is on all of us. We let Congress become a swamp in the first place.

Pai was recommended by the Republican party; the FCC has two commissioners for each party, plus the chairman who decides split votes. Obama's chairman was in favor of NN, Trump's was solidly against, and that's all that matters.

Re: F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

#157
post #118

Europe has it's problems, but I don't regret moving to London. Not one bit. The innovation here is real and tangible, by and large unencumbered by this kind of crap.

Whenever I become angry about something here in the US and look into emigrating (mostly looking at first-world English speaking countries: CAN, UK, NZ, etc.), my research usually turns up compelling evidence that no country with any sort of socialized health care system (which is pretty much anywhere in the developed world) will accept a person with special needs children. So I'm stuck here, for good or bad.

None of those countries have equivalent ISP rules either.

Re: F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

#159
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Non-voters / people on the “there’s no difference” train also deserve a moment of reflection about whether their reality is true.

We live in an electoral system. For almost all of the states of the U.S. it's actually factually correct that there's no difference for whom you vote in the Presidential elections. In many locations, it also doesn't matter who you vote for in Congressional ones thanks to gerrymandering drawing boundary lines around you before you even get to the polls. We can discuss ideologically what the differences are between the…

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Re: F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

#160
post #26

Friendly reminder that economists surveyed are far more likely to be for paid prioritization than against http://www.igmchicago.org/surveys/net-neutrality-ii

They are also in favour of letting people starve, on environmental externalities to be ignored and to nickel and dime people for short term profit ignoring long term consequences
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