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My first instinct was to laugh. My second was "I want this."
I had the same exact reaction as you! :-)
Google collects cell tower info even if location services are disabled
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Re: Google collects cell tower info even if location services are disabled
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Apple provides a black box with iOS, they have full control. Maybe the next iOS update comes with privacy intrusion because it's more lucrative. A more sensible way of dealing wirh the issue would be to use an open source Android version like AOSP or LineageOS, not run proprietary gapps, and replace its functionality with F-Droid, MicroG and Yalp-store. Your location will stay out of Apple's/Google's hands and you ca…
> Maybe the next iOS update comes with privacy intrusion because it's more lucrative. Apple has demonstrated time and time again their commitment to privacy and to protecting user data. Apple does not see user data as something to be hoarded. They see user data as a liability and work very hard to collect as little as possible in order to provide the services they do. The idea that Apple is going to discard all of th…
Re: Google collects cell tower info even if location services are disabled
#153It's amazing to me how many comments here excuse Google's behavior by offering the impractical "solution" of just not using a smartphone (a false dilemma) when the obvious answer is to get an iPhone. That's the advice of pretty much everyone in the infosec field and I'm sure some of them will attest to that in this thread.
>the solution is to buy a (much more expensive) phone from this specific competitor This sounds like advertising. Also, I'm fairly sure that Apple also sells data. Indeed, given current privacy laws, it's basically guaranteed that if a company has proprietary software, it is selling data from that software.
They make it very clear that they are protecting data, to a far greater degree than Google offers if you use their ecosystem.
I don't think it's at all fair to resort to an "Everyone is the same" argument here.
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#154It’s funny how when asked about it, google instantly stated that it was being removed and all location data was purged. It’s almost as if they saw how bad it looks and how it hurts android’s reputation, but hoped no one would notice/care.
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> Maybe the next iOS update comes with privacy intrusion because it's more lucrative. Apple has demonstrated time and time again their commitment to privacy and to protecting user data. Apple does not see user data as something to be hoarded. They see user data as a liability and work very hard to collect as little as possible in order to provide the services they do. The idea that Apple is going to discard all of th…
Can you post a link to close my appleID? Yes, you can close a Google/ Microsoft account with few clicks
Re: Google collects cell tower info even if location services are disabled
#156It's amazing to me how many comments here excuse Google's behavior by offering the impractical "solution" of just not using a smartphone (a false dilemma) when the obvious answer is to get an iPhone. That's the advice of pretty much everyone in the infosec field and I'm sure some of them will attest to that in this thread.
I don't disagree with your first point, but I disagree with the second. Encouraging everyone to "just buy an iPhone" is a false dilemma of its own. No. The "obvious" solution here is to regulate companies and give huge fines for doing stuff like this, without explicit user permission. Google went through hell in Germany over its "error" in collecting user data from their Wi-Fi hotspots. Why can't the U.S. do the same…
Re: Google collects cell tower info even if location services are disabled
#157It's amazing to me how many comments here excuse Google's behavior by offering the impractical "solution" of just not using a smartphone (a false dilemma) when the obvious answer is to get an iPhone. That's the advice of pretty much everyone in the infosec field and I'm sure some of them will attest to that in this thread.
Re: Google collects cell tower info even if location services are disabled
#158Classic example of Google's "ask for forgiveness, not permission" mode of operation.
Re: Google collects cell tower info even if location services are disabled
#159It's amazing to me how many comments here excuse Google's behavior by offering the impractical "solution" of just not using a smartphone (a false dilemma) when the obvious answer is to get an iPhone. That's the advice of pretty much everyone in the infosec field and I'm sure some of them will attest to that in this thread.
> It's amazing to me how many comments here excuse Google's behavior by offering the impractical "solution" of just not using a smartphone (a false dilemma) when the obvious answer is to get an iPhone. Smartphone or not, carrying any phone means providing this information to your carrier at all times. I don't like the idea of sending this information to anybody, but to be honest, Google is the entity that I'm the las…
You can't have privacy without security, but security by itself does not equal privacy.
The best security in the world doesn't mean that you have privacy if everything you do online is tracked. And no company arguably tracks you more than Google. The volume of tracking data they collect about users is mind-bogglingly gargantuan in scale.
It's baffling how Google escapes scrutiny on their data collection practices, particularly from the tech community who seem happy to give Google a free pass on matters of privacy and online tracking.
Re: Google collects cell tower info even if location services are disabled
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I don't disagree with your first point, but I disagree with the second. Encouraging everyone to "just buy an iPhone" is a false dilemma of its own. No. The "obvious" solution here is to regulate companies and give huge fines for doing stuff like this, without explicit user permission. Google went through hell in Germany over its "error" in collecting user data from their Wi-Fi hotspots. Why can't the U.S. do the same…
The “obvious” solution takes time to implement and with the current administration in power upon the US, there is little hope they will do the right thing here.
Dont fool yourself that the problem is the "current" administration and the next administration from the "good guys" will solve everything.