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This Is Why The American Dream Is Out Of Reach

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Re: This Is Why The American Dream Is Out Of Reach

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It looks like we interpreted the author differently. I took the "more degrees" coupled with a graduation age of 21 to mean the son had a Bachelor's and the father had only a high school diploma. I was looking at it as college vs no college, not college today vs college 30 years ago.

Yes, the basic premise was that college is more expensive now, but that college graduates are not any more educated than they were decades ago.

Experience leads me argue that they are LESS educated now.

Look around on the web. Start paying attention to how many people consistently make basic linguistic errors like "loose" when they wanted to say "lose" or use the incorrect homophone for "there" or "it's" to indicate a possessive. Look for actual reasoning -- as opposed to pedantically regurgitating a collection of facts.

The sad reality is that getting a degree these days has become a lot easier, and increasingly has very little to do with how smart one is, but rather how skilled one is at cramming for a test.

The high demand and low supply in software developers has lead to both higher salaries and lower standards.

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I certainly think that education is important. I think the problem lately is people have been valuing formal education over life experience. College is not the only life experience, nor in my opinion, is it the most important one. Life is not a checklist!

"I certainly think that education is important. I think the problem lately is people have been valuing formal education over life experience. College is not the only life experience, nor in my opinion, is it the most important one." College can't replace life experience. But, many of the articles I have seen go in the opposite direction and say that college is useless. To some it may be useless, but you will only get…

Effort is always important, and not the issue here. I think one of the things we need to get out of this discussion is a distinction between college as a single concept, vs various courses of study that have greater or lesser benefits for the student. I'm not going to argue that some courses of study are worthless, but I do believe that many do not provide benefits beyond their costs, (in all senses, not just financially.)

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Just a reminder but Hard Science degrees also make you take some general education requirements, for instance my Computer Science degree came with courses such as: * 4 Semesters of Latin * Chinese Mythology * History * Linguistics * Entomology * Sociology * Macro Economics

Same here, we had to take eight 3-credit humanities courses to graduate. I ended up taking history, literature, and some sociology. We even had to take physical education for 4 or 6 (I forget) semesters at 1 credit a pop.

heh. One of the things I found most amusing on applying to college was how my military service filled all my physical education requirements.

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how many great filmmakers went to film school, though?

I think the question you want to ask is "What proportion of film school graduates become great filmmakers?"

No, you want to compare that proportion with the proportion of amateur filmmakers who never went to school and became great filmmakers. In other words, does film school increase your chances?

Re: This Is Why The American Dream Is Out Of Reach

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Sigh, another blogger trotting out the tired, false cliche that college is useless. From the article: "Were you smarter at 21 post college than your Dad was at 21? And whatever the difference, was it worth the $50k-$200k he paid to get you it?" Yes. Yes I was smarter. And I didn't pay 200k because I went to a state school. I graduated a wholly different person with a completely different world-view and a ton of appli…

I'm rather bothered by all the people knocking liberal arts degrees, in this and other threads. I did go to a school with a reputation for having a hard liberal arts core education, and it turned out to be a great decision. (In retrospect, I now wish I had gone to a different school, but the one I chose wasn't bad at all.) It's hard to explain why it's good to be able to think about these things, but it's hard to exp…

"I did go to a school with a reputation for having a hard liberal arts core education, and it turned out to be a great decision. (In retrospect, I now wish I had gone to a different school, but the one I chose wasn't bad at all.)"

I knew a fellow maroon before I clicked the profile.

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