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Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by tobystore »

craftyguy wrote: post #143
jack6e wrote: post #131

Even though the overall tone of this review was upbeat and positive, it seemed that the baseline conclusion was: "hopefully we find a use for the minor iterative improvements that will make this more than just the next release in a series of underwhelming releases." For one of the first, selectively-chosen reviews of what is supposed to be a ground-breaking product, the article essentially told us 1) the pictures loo…

Apple could literally release a phone with zero changes to it over the previous "generation" and billions would still want it.

>Apple could literally release a phone with zero changes to it over the previous "generation" and billions would still want it.

Yes, but not because of the mindless sheep angle you seem to want it to be. Lots of people are comfortable using iPhones and like how they work. They don't want to to switch to something else. The End.

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by [deleted] »

tobystore wrote: post #151
craftyguy wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple could literally release a phone with zero changes to it over the previous "generation" and billions would still want it.

>Apple could literally release a phone with zero changes to it over the previous "generation" and billions would still want it. Yes, but not because of the mindless sheep angle you seem to want it to be. Lots of people are comfortable using iPhones and like how they work. They don't want to to switch to something else. The End.

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Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by robotresearcher »

woobar wrote: post #148
waterflame wrote: post #53

While I love the phone and find it a big improvement over all current market phones (not that innovative though), I wonder how many people will die trying to unlock their phones while driving. And they will unlock it while driving.

I am not sure why it is different from any other phone. Yes, unlocking the phone with fingerprint does not require taking your eyes off the road. But aren't your going to look at the screen of the unlocked phone anyway?

Not to use Siri.

Not to unlock for my kids in the back to play music.

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by iamatworknow »

Aloha wrote: post #133
Slaul wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For whatever reason I was under the impression that those phones were larger than they are. Thanks for pointing those out to me! I'm still probably going to switch to Apple because I've been working towards being more privacy conscious in the last several months and Apple's stance on privacy and encryption is appealing.

I was an android early adopter who switched in 2012 - and I'll explain why. At the time I had a T-Mobile G2 which was approaching the end of its natural lifecycle, I was also dissatisfied with the software quality of android overall - at the time I was looking for another android phone running stock android with a keyboard (something that didnt exist effectively), because the android on screen keyboard at the time wa…

This mirrors my own experience.

As a Samsung Note 2/4 owner I used to give myself a lot of excuses as to why iPhones were "bad" -- non-expandable storage (even though I never maxed out the storage that came built in with my Android phones), non-user replaceable battery (even though my battery hardly ever dips below 50%, as whenever I'm in a place where I can plug it in, it's plugged in), a more restrictive ecosystem (even though I barely use more than the web browser and a few other common apps on any phone).

My tipping point was visiting Canada one time with data roaming turned off. Despite this, Sprint decided overnight that my Note 4 needed to download the Sprint NASCAR app that I did not request or have any intention of ever using. The download, since I was roaming in another country, cost me about $20 on my next statement.

Shortly thereafter I got an iPhone 6S Plus and haven't looked back. I'm still with Sprint, but thanks to iOS's restrictions I don't have to have any of their junk installed on there, which couldn't be removed from my Note 4 without rooting it.

I will say, however, that I'm still not a fan of iPhones killing the headphone jack, so I don't intend to upgrade until it becomes strictly necessary.

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by dntrkv »

jack6e wrote: post #131

Even though the overall tone of this review was upbeat and positive, it seemed that the baseline conclusion was: "hopefully we find a use for the minor iterative improvements that will make this more than just the next release in a series of underwhelming releases." For one of the first, selectively-chosen reviews of what is supposed to be a ground-breaking product, the article essentially told us 1) the pictures loo…

What was so revolutionary about the original iPhone? I don't think anyone could point at any single feature throughout the whole smartphone revolution and claim it was "revolutionary." It was always a combination of features and design decisions that made the phones so easy and pleasant to use. There were many phones before the iPhone that were way more capable, yet nobody talked about them.

Siri, TouchID, FaceID, capacitive touch screen, great cameras, app store, full fledged browser, LTE, etc...

Any of these features by themselves aren't "revolutionary" until you combine it all into a cohesive experience where you look at your phone to unlock it, take a photo that until very recently could only be produced by a DSLR, upload it nearly instantly to a social network within 5 taps, and then receive real time notifications when other people comment on it, all on a device you can hold in one hand.

Sure, you could say this is more evolutionary than revolutionary, but again, I don't believe there was this time where it was revolutionary to the extent you claim. It's always been a slow iterative process.

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by ggg9990 »

jack6e wrote: post #131

Even though the overall tone of this review was upbeat and positive, it seemed that the baseline conclusion was: "hopefully we find a use for the minor iterative improvements that will make this more than just the next release in a series of underwhelming releases." For one of the first, selectively-chosen reviews of what is supposed to be a ground-breaking product, the article essentially told us 1) the pictures loo…

FaceID is extremely uninteresting but the hardware used for it could be game-changing. A depth camera on 100m devices in the world is pretty novel. I can imagine pretty cool gaming and communications apps that project a user's face into the virtual world, and held backwards you could use the depth camera to scan a room.

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by matwood »

Aloha wrote: post #133
Slaul wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For whatever reason I was under the impression that those phones were larger than they are. Thanks for pointing those out to me! I'm still probably going to switch to Apple because I've been working towards being more privacy conscious in the last several months and Apple's stance on privacy and encryption is appealing.

I was an android early adopter who switched in 2012 - and I'll explain why. At the time I had a T-Mobile G2 which was approaching the end of its natural lifecycle, I was also dissatisfied with the software quality of android overall - at the time I was looking for another android phone running stock android with a keyboard (something that didnt exist effectively), because the android on screen keyboard at the time wa…

I'm in a similar boat as you. I was an iPhone user who switched to the HTC One for Android, and had problems. I then went to a Nexus 5 thinking it would fix my issues, but still had various problems. When the large screen iPhones came out I gave up my experiment, switched back, and wondered why I ever left.

People tell me Android has improved since then, but it always felt not quite done. I'm still happy with the iPhone. Meanwhile, a co-worker in the office received his new Pixel 2 XL and RMAed it the same day because the proximity sensor doesn't work.

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by beezle »

Slaul wrote: post #39

I am excited for this phone (as a lifelong Android user) because of the large screen in the small form factor. I really appreciate high resolution screens but I'm tired of needing ginormous phones to get it. This device seems to have a great screen in the perfect form factor for me. I'm waiting to see some reviews before purchasing but the iPhone X is probably going to be my next phone. Sidenote, anybody have any tip…

I agree it would be nice to have a 5" height smartphone with 85 to 90% screen coverage. Doesn't look to happen. And iphone X is really no different size wise to its current/recent competition.

The S8 is slightly taller (5mm) and slightly narrower (3mm) with a very slightly larger screen at higher dpi. The V30 screen is 10% larger, higher dpi but at cost of additional 8mm height and 5mm width. For comparision, the diameter of a dime is 18mm. (data from GSMArena)

Think its a reach to say iPhone X competitors are some how 'ginormous' in comparison. Sounds like an iPhone 7/8 is more the physical size you are looking for if wanting to leave the Android world.

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by [deleted] »

twoodfin wrote: post #3

Interesting PR strategy by Apple, considering the general review embargo hasn’t been lifted yet (I’m assuming more than a few of the usual suspects got review units...this past Friday, maybe?) This is certainly the way Apple would like the X to be perceived, and Levy makes sense as someone likely to be on their wavelength.

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Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by beezle »

Aloha wrote: post #133
Slaul wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For whatever reason I was under the impression that those phones were larger than they are. Thanks for pointing those out to me! I'm still probably going to switch to Apple because I've been working towards being more privacy conscious in the last several months and Apple's stance on privacy and encryption is appealing.

I was an android early adopter who switched in 2012 - and I'll explain why. At the time I had a T-Mobile G2 which was approaching the end of its natural lifecycle, I was also dissatisfied with the software quality of android overall - at the time I was looking for another android phone running stock android with a keyboard (something that didnt exist effectively), because the android on screen keyboard at the time wa…

The LG G2 was released in September of 2013, even allowing a year for life cycle would be late 2014?
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