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Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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post #70

Any idea how I can get rid of that title bar that sits on top of the tab bar? In the demo I saw it's not present or it may have been cut from it. Linux

hit the hamburger menu, then Customize. In the lower right, there should be a toggle for it. edit: not sure if that's linux friendly

Not present on Linux unfortunately.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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post #75

>Firefox Quantum feels right at home with today’s mouse and touch-driven operating systems: Windows 10, macOS High Sierra, Android Oreo, and iOS 11. What about Linux?

Linux is not a touch-driven operating system as far as I know. There are so many issues with touch in Linux that I don't even know where to start.

But.. that's not what you were getting at, just a tiny rant ;(

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

#153
post #54

That video in the post seems to show Chrome is still significantly faster in half of the tests shown there. How is that possible? From what Servo was initially promising (even 3-4x the speed of old Firefox), it didn't look like Chrome would come close either. Did they make that many compromises when "porting parts from Servo" to Gecko? What's hurting Firefox's performance so much that even after implementing Electrol…

Browser performance is not a single dimension. Nobody said Servo was going to be 3x-4x faster than (insert engine here) on every possible benchmark anyone could ever come up with. Rather, it's fast on the areas it focuses on.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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As someone that jumped ship from how slow Chrome has gotten and went to Nightly /w Stylo and (CPU threads - 1) e10s processes enabled about 2 monthsish ago... Holy damn Firefox is actually fast. Fair comparison, both having Pocket, uBlock, Evernote, OneNote, Pushbullet, and Bitwarden; neither of them having an extension the other doesn't. Above described Firefox Nightly config vs Chrome Dev. Test machines are a works…

Unfortunately, as long as Firefox security infrastructure does not match Chrome, I can not use it. Note that errors like use-after-free and buffer overflows are marked as Critical (run arbitrary code on computer) for Firefox, but marked as High (execute code in the context of, or otherwise impersonate other origins.) for Chrome because of sandboxing.

Firefox: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities...

Chrome: https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/search/label/Stable%20...

Hopefully with their sandboxing project done (Also with Rust) will make Firefox much better in the security department, but until then, no.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very interesting, that does appear to be the case - likewise for VimFx. From what I gather, the go-to Vim plugin after this year will be Vimium (which I currently use on Chrome), although it hasn't yet been ported to FF 57.

Yes, but in VimFx's case it's more a matter of the developer not feeling like it considering Vimium is available, which for me has been a drop-in replacement of VimFx. I just assumed that as you mentioned Vimperator, you wanted the complete, somewhat more invasive, experience.

It's preferable, but if I'm honest Vimium is Good Enough(tm) for my general use case. I didn't realize they had a FF57 compatible version :)

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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post #65

Can someone more in the know explain if this uses webrender or not? I thought that it did... I have to admit that I'm not super impressed with the results here. Based on the talk that pcwalton did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erfnCaeLxSI I was expected it not to just be a little faster than Chrome, but to, like, double the speed, or more. Is it that these are just not good candidates for showing how much faster t…

No, Firefox 57 does not use WebRender.

WR's architecture has changed significantly from that talk, for the better. In particular aggressive use of early Z has made our fragment shading performance go way up since then.

In Nightly you can turn WR on via about:config. But be warned that there are quite a few problems, including performance problems, that still remain. The foundation is solid, but the CSS rendering model is complex, and there's a good amount of engineering work that just has to happen to make every corner case fast. (For instance, parts of Ars Technica were recently found to be slow because the particular interaction between the CSS features it was using was causing Gecko to generate a ton of clipping operations for WR... there's no substitute for engineering polishing work that has to happen in cases like that.)

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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post #75

>Firefox Quantum feels right at home with today’s mouse and touch-driven operating systems: Windows 10, macOS High Sierra, Android Oreo, and iOS 11. What about Linux?

Linux is not a touch-driven operating system as far as I know. There are so many issues with touch in Linux that I don't even know where to start. But.. that's not what you were getting at, just a tiny rant ;(

macOS does not support touch at all though

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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One thing that stops me switching from Chrome is the multiple profiles and easy profile switching in Chrome. I have work and personal profiles and then other profiles for different roles I use in testing web applications. Last time I checked it wasn't at all convenient to do this in Firefox.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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post #74
post #68

Wow, it really is blazing fast, and just at a glance I like what they're doing with the dev tools. Unfortunately... > Vimperator : "This add-on is not compatible with your version of Firefox." Ouch. Guess I might need to wait a bit to make this my daily driver. All in all, though, I have to say I'm really glad to see Firefox is still solidly in this race - and with a kick ass and quite possibly superior product to bo…

Vimperator, unfortunately, appears to be one of the few extensions that can never be fully ported, as it made use of API's that implied a security risk.

Pentadactyl too is horribly broken. I'm running Firefox's Extended Support Release for this very reason. Will probably have to bite the bullet and switch to Vimium within a year.
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