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Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Post by orand »

SomeHacker44 wrote: post #141

As the head of a company that uses HipChat... Thank you Atlassian. We have intended to migrate to the (free and better) Mattermost for a long time and just have been waiting for it to hit the top of our priority list. Knowing you are abandoning the terrible HipChat for an entirely new product, with no migration path and 50% more cost, makes this an easier choice. You have been abandoning us on JIRA and Confluence as…

Which Jira and Confluence features aren't available for fully upgraded self-hosted instances?

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Post by taternuts »

illamint wrote: post #21

Sad that this isn't available as an on-premises solution out of the gate. We're stuck using internally-hosted HipChat for compliance reasons and it is absolutely awful. The desktop and web clients have only gotten worse over time. This confirms my worst fears that HipChat is basically abandonware.

It did get an update sometime last week!! Signed, Another sad on-premise user

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Post by lightedman »

Camfrog still reigns supreme IMHO. Voice and video chat with thousands of people at once, notifications are easily disabled so you can just focus on the conversation while doing your work, and if someone wants to show you something, all you have to do is click on their name to open their video window. The chat rooms can be set up to allow a single person to speak at a time or multiple people to speak simultaneously.

Even has a words filter so you can just filter out words you don't like from conversations, if you don't like vernacular.

So good Paltalk bought Camfrog just for the video tech, then resold it back to Camfrog.

The only real downside to Camfrog is a lack of chat history, excepting in your IMs. Rooms do not have a chat history (admins have log access, though.)

When these other apps provide a real chat function instead of it being a bolted-on afterthought, I might be convinced to switch. Until then, Camfrog's been the only social/chat/networking program/app that I've paid money for.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Post by BackendAndBBQ »

SomeHacker44 wrote: post #141

As the head of a company that uses HipChat... Thank you Atlassian. We have intended to migrate to the (free and better) Mattermost for a long time and just have been waiting for it to hit the top of our priority list. Knowing you are abandoning the terrible HipChat for an entirely new product, with no migration path and 50% more cost, makes this an easier choice. You have been abandoning us on JIRA and Confluence as…

> Knowing you are abandoning the terrible HipChat for an entirely new product, with no migration path

AFAIK, they offer migration from Hipchat to Stride https://confluence.atlassian.com/stride-documentation/upgrad...

> We'll move all of your teammates, rooms, files, custom emoticons, and message history over to Stride for you so your team won't miss a beat.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Post by hueving »

utobi wrote: post #88
moolcool wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish people used IRC instead of all of these proprietary tools. I don't love the Slack client, xchat is much better.

It is possible to connect to Slack with an IRC client: https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/201727913-Connect-t...

That's still a proprietary backend.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Post by corndoge »

dasil003 wrote: post #125
bamboozled wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, there is little that Slack gives me IRC doesn't, a good client and I'm set.

You really also need to run a bot server on a reliable connection that can log and index everything to approach the utility of Slack.

You need to do this on slack unless you pay for it. Comparatively IRC is free and it's actually easier to make a logging IRC bot than it is to make one on slack.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Post by sandGorgon »

cpursley wrote: post #81
MaxLeiter wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most IRC clients

Can you recommend an IRC client that works for non-technical folks that also works with api and webhooks capabilities?

irccloud.com - always on. never lose history.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Post by dancryer »

hobofan wrote: post #27
mmahemoff wrote: post #20

Hard to take it seriously when Hipchat came first and languished for so long. Even basic stuff like Emoji was a fail (their list included (arrington) and (derp)). Why launch a new Slack clone when you already have something so closely matching the architecture of Slack? I assume "technical debt" but that's rarely a good reason to start from scratch.

> Why launch a new Slack clone when you already have something so closely matching the architecture of Slack? A new possibility to build a brand and reputation? From what I can gather HipChat has a pretty "meh" reputation.

Couldn't that be an opportunity though? Are you more likely to notice 'the new thing' from Atlassian, or when someone says "Woah, have you seen how much they've improved HipChat?"

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Post by solidr53 »

dleslie wrote: post #132
scrollaway wrote: post #93

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We use Discord for all communications at my company, including now our video chats. We are fully remote and Discord is so much better than Hangouts it's not even funny. I've also transferred all my skype and hangouts contact lists into Discord. It's a lovely tool, lock in be damned.

How is Discord on Linux?

Its built with electron, so identical besides maybe font rendering etc.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Post by yalooze »

SomeHacker44 wrote: post #141

As the head of a company that uses HipChat... Thank you Atlassian. We have intended to migrate to the (free and better) Mattermost for a long time and just have been waiting for it to hit the top of our priority list. Knowing you are abandoning the terrible HipChat for an entirely new product, with no migration path and 50% more cost, makes this an easier choice. You have been abandoning us on JIRA and Confluence as…

It seems the migration path is straightforward

> All of your rooms, teammates, files, custom emoticons and message history from HipChat Cloud will be in Stride waiting for you, just as you left it.

https://confluence.atlassian.com/stride-documentation/upgrad...

But I hear you on Atlassian seeming like they're abandoning things. I'm still waiting for them to fix Bitbucket's online editor which breaks when you try to edit files with different character encoding https://bitbucket.org/site/master/issues/13450/file-characte...

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