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Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by bartbutler »

ThePhysicist wrote: post #108
mi100hael wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes the customer is either flat wrong or at least an asshole. ProtonMail sends yearly surveys to paying customers asking for help prioritizing development efforts, so suggesting they don't listen to their customers is asinine. IMAP support is in beta as a result of customers prioritizing it in those surveys. As they are likely limited primarily by funding and developer bandwidth, I see nothing wrong with their…

Exporting e-mails was one of the most requested features as far as I remember ( https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/export-import-... ) and I can understand people getting angry about this. I think Protonmail will have to move a bit faster on this now as holding your customer data "hostage" will no longer be an acceptable practice starting from next year (May 25) due to EU GDPR. So if they want to keep sell…

We are working hard on import and export--they are top priorities, and we are fully aware that they are core features we are currently missing.

Keep in mind that pretty much everything is more complex with encrypted email, and that includes import and export. It will be done as soon as we can manage.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by Lunatic666 »

MollyR wrote: post #34

I'm thinking of switching my business email to protonmail from gmail. Any users like it ? The whole google memo revealed google employees are not as trustworthy as I thought. All the social media talk of blacklists, and inquisition tactics from some of upper management is bad for business. I've already gotten emails from clients asking me to change their business google services to something else (anything else in th…

I gave it a try and I really like the Webmailer and the apps, but not having IMAP/SMTP is a dealbreaker, because you can't import/backup your mails at all. As soon as they add those features, I'll sign up for a paid plan again.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by vladimir-y »

MollyR wrote: post #34

I'm thinking of switching my business email to protonmail from gmail. Any users like it ? The whole google memo revealed google employees are not as trustworthy as I thought. All the social media talk of blacklists, and inquisition tactics from some of upper management is bad for business. I've already gotten emails from clients asking me to change their business google services to something else (anything else in th…

Any reasons to not go with https://www.fastmail.com/ ?

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by tradersam »

GigabyteCoin wrote: post #144
tradersam wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Zcash Monero would be a better option.

Care to elaborate? I don't know a ton about Zcash or Monero, I only know that Zcash advertises and actually produces truly anonymous transactions (that the founders can unmask, or so I have read). Is Monero anonymous as well? For every transaction? Or only specific ones (like Zcash).

Here's a really good explanation of RingCT: https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/83/how-does-moner...

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by hacksome »

MollyR wrote: post #34

I'm thinking of switching my business email to protonmail from gmail. Any users like it ? The whole google memo revealed google employees are not as trustworthy as I thought. All the social media talk of blacklists, and inquisition tactics from some of upper management is bad for business. I've already gotten emails from clients asking me to change their business google services to something else (anything else in th…

You may want to give a try to Zoho.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by icebraining »

dmoy wrote: post #147
icebraining wrote: post #105

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Why would you pay with dollars when you could buy Bitcoin with those dollars instead?

Two reasons: 1) Because I need to buy things with dollars to a) not starve, freeze, etc. b) not get thrown in jail for tax evasion and 2) because I'm not comfortable with that level of investment risk, and prefer a more diversified approach of mutual funds, bonds, and real estate.

1) We're talking about paying for ProtonMail. This is implied by the context in both mine and the parent's post.

2) Exactly! And despite not being comfortable with Bitcoin as an investment, you may very well prefer it over the short term as a payment mechanism.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by gaadd33 »

laken wrote: post #92
arosier wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ProtonMail now supports catch-all email for ProtonMail Professional and Visionary plans. That means for each domain that has email hosted at ProtonMail, you can now designate one email address as the catch-all address by going to Settings –> Domains. For example, info@me.com could receive any email sent to the @me.com domain, even if the address did not exist. You can learn more about catch-all emails here ( https://…

Can you send email back from the addresses the email was sent to? I think when I was looking into it, ProtonMail caps how many aliases you can create; making it not that good for catchall.

What part prevents you from sending it from any email address? I assume if you smtp auth with them ok then you should be able to send from any email@authed domain you want.

Do people limit that somehow?

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Post by tony101 »

ThePhysicist wrote: post #112
MollyR wrote: post #34

I'm thinking of switching my business email to protonmail from gmail. Any users like it ? The whole google memo revealed google employees are not as trustworthy as I thought. All the social media talk of blacklists, and inquisition tactics from some of upper management is bad for business. I've already gotten emails from clients asking me to change their business google services to something else (anything else in th…

I've tried it, but their solution is (IMHO) a very poor fit for a business e-mail account, as there is (or was when I used the service) no way to manage e-mail accounts for your employees and no way to archive / extract their e-mails in case of need (I understand that it's a privacy-focused e-mail service, but as an employer you have legal requirements to keep business documents for several years, and having to rely…

It looks like ProtonMail released new account management features just a few weeks ago, including the capability for "organization admins to access the emails of other organization users" while still preserving end-to-end encryption.

Source: https://protonmail.com/blog/encrypted-email-for-organization...

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by danenania »

mi100hael wrote: post #80
teleproto wrote: post #64

But are they open source yet? Sure, you can find the web client sources. How about the server, and the mobile apps? The website makes a big deal of them being open source after all ( https://protonmail.com/blog/protonmail-open-source/ ).

Mobile apps should be open source, but server doesn't really matter. It's just some boring plumbing shuffling around a bunch of encrypted blobs.

There's also no way to verify that a server is really running the same code that was open-sourced.

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Post by linuxready »

tajen wrote: post #125
Accacin wrote: post #85

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I've not seen anyone else talking about mailbox.org. I've been using them for a while after moving away from Fastmail and I'm loving it. Cheap and they're recommeded by https://www.privacytools.io/ .

Why did you switch away from Fastmail? I'm there.

Possible reasons (I'm also with Fastmail and it makes me uncomfortable):

- Fastmail can immediately cancel your account for any reason: "The Service Provider may terminate your access to any part or all of the Service and any related service(s) at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately, for any reason whatsoever, with or without providing any refund of any payments."

- Fastmail can disclose your info/data if it thinks it's in the interest of the company: "The Service Provider will not monitor, edit, or disclose any personal information about you [...] unless required or allowed by law, or where the Service Provider has a good faith belief that such action is necessary to: [...] (2) protect and defend the rights or property of the Service Provider; [...] (4) act to protect the interests of its members or others [...]

By comparison, mailbox.org TOS are much better.

Also mailbox.org offers GPG encryption, which Fastmail doesn't (AFAIK).

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