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Fear is America’s top-selling consumer product

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Re: Fear is America’s top-selling consumer product

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You've seen editorialized headlines from Reuter's wire service? Or Reuter's "news" page? Those are separate things.

Huh, I didn't realize that. Thanks for pointing out.

https://agency.reuters.com/en/products-services/products/new...

Yeah they sell the wire service and its not really publicly available.

The closest free equivalent is:

https://www.reuters.com/theWire

Re: Fear is America’s top-selling consumer product

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I'm slowly trimming away the means I acquire news, because it's all becoming so editorialized. Twitter is bombarded with bots and flamewars, reddit is a lost cause, and news.google.com is mainly driven by larger syndications that have mastered the "Big Headlines Sell" strategy. That leaves HN and my little local papers, Mountain View Voice and its ilk. Great for local stories and tech news, but I feel like I'm missin…

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Re: Fear is America’s top-selling consumer product

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I'm slowly trimming away the means I acquire news, because it's all becoming so editorialized. Twitter is bombarded with bots and flamewars, reddit is a lost cause, and news.google.com is mainly driven by larger syndications that have mastered the "Big Headlines Sell" strategy. That leaves HN and my little local papers, Mountain View Voice and its ilk. Great for local stories and tech news, but I feel like I'm missin…

The No Agenda show analyses (twice weekly) exactly what you're talking about and compares many sources. They deconstruct the media. They frequently also use European (France 24 and Deutsche Welle) and Asian (like CCTV) to contrast the news in the U.S. They also include RT and compare. http://www.noagendashow.com/

up vote for the no agenda show. Unfortunately, what passes for journalism today is an over-processed product designed to cram more ads in front of your face and prompt more consumption rather than inform.

Re: Fear is America’s top-selling consumer product

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Without a doubt the business news has a greater interest in delivery of facts on the ground than your typical national newspaper. To that end I pay for (and only pay for) the Financial Times due to their attempt to seek out truth. For example, on controversial issues they'll have editorials from both sides, long articles, and they publish letters criticizing and correcting articles. As it's investment-minded and Brit…

> The sad thing about the FT is how expensive it is. Real journalism costs money, and ad revenues aren't what they used to be.

Partly because of ad blockers. But ad blockers became popular due to the rise in obnoxious ads. It’s an endless cycle that advertisers and publishers aren’t working at all to fix.

Re: Fear is America’s top-selling consumer product

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r/LateStageCapitalism is on the front page all the time. Its rules include "Support for capitalism--and the political parties which uphold it--is strictly prohibited". Counterbalanced views are not front paged on a regular basis. Reddit made sure idiotic pro-Trump subreddits were left off the front page. It didn't do the same for idiotic anti-Trump subreddits. r/TwoXChromosomes, also regularly appearing on the front…

I was banned from latestagecapitalism when I argued with a user that was recommending murdering business owners was a necessity to improve the world. That sub used to just be a cynical but funny place to comment on the general degradation of morality, then it swung to extremism like seemingly every Reddit sub.

And public violence is a common sentiment over there, too. Not even in a joking way. If prompted, they will inform you that peaceful methods will never work and fighting in the streets is necessary to seize the means.

Re: Fear is America’s top-selling consumer product

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NPR is known by pretty much every right-of-center person in the nation as being the Fox News of the left. If you're left-of-center you have a stake in NPR's skewed coverage being the neutral truth (because that validates your world view), but it's just not the case. The bias isn't necessarily in the sourcing or the facts, it's in the selective coverage and the constructed narratives and the overt bias in what kind of…

Where are the liberal insane Sean Hannitys or O'reilly's? Not on NPR. Can I trust NPR will blindly support Democrats? No, they're friendly but still critical. NPR is a news station that leans left - and you're right, most people that seek the truth also lean left for some reason. But the left has nothing like "Fox News". There are no liberal infotainment channels that spread propaganda so blindly and unashamedly as F…

The way NPR does the lean is quite interesting in that it's not usually obvious.

When they slant something what they will do is either pick someone on the opposite side of something who is off the rails or ineloquent. Or, when the opposition has an argument, they often will challenge the argument. When they have the side they agree with on, rather than challenge they tend to ask supporting questions.

That said, Greene and another do make an attempt at being fair while still showing their side, as opposed to Hinohosa or McEvers, for example.

Re: Fear is America’s top-selling consumer product

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> ...the left in general couldn't understand why anyone would vote for this obvious shyster If it seems like I'm singling out NPR, I didn't mean to. All left wing outlets messed up or this wouldn't be an issue. I'm saying the audience should do a better job of understanding the people who voted for Trump. And the left-leaning media has to produce many, many pieces aimed in that direction. Why would Fox News produce p…

I'm saying that maybe left-wing outlets didn't mess up, maybe understanding a Trump voter really is just that difficult. I still can't, and I don't think better coverage would have changed that.

> maybe understanding a Trump voter really is just that difficult

Well, over 40% of voters last time around certainly understood. I've read thoughtful and/or insightful things as well, so there's media out there. It's just a matter of people with appropriate credibility consuming, curating, and re-explaining these things to their audiences. I could repost things I've found compelling, but until the Terry Gross's and John Oliver's of the world start taking white blue collar concerns at face value (not just people not smart enough to be cosmopolitan socialists yet), I'm not sure it will help much.

Re: Fear is America’s top-selling consumer product

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I'm slowly trimming away the means I acquire news, because it's all becoming so editorialized. Twitter is bombarded with bots and flamewars, reddit is a lost cause, and news.google.com is mainly driven by larger syndications that have mastered the "Big Headlines Sell" strategy. That leaves HN and my little local papers, Mountain View Voice and its ilk. Great for local stories and tech news, but I feel like I'm missin…

Along these lines, can anyone suggest tools to monitor the 'weather' on social media by tracking bot and flamewar like activity? I don't mean in terms of the actual content of what's posted, just how active different networks are and suchlike. I've looked at some social media monitoring tools but they seem both expensive and centered on a particular user's account or brand mentions. I'm looking for a high-level semi-…

I'd like to see this too.
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