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Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by oefrha »

notsrg wrote: post #123

Gitter is a great idea in theory. In practice it's just been a place for my questions to go unanswered.

I co-maintain an open source project on GitHub that's somewhat popular (>1.5k stars). We set up Gitter because I preferred Slack which my collaborator didn't use, and he preferred Gchat which I didn't use, and Gitter looked like a reasonable middle ground. Since then it's mostly been a communication channel between us two. We do get a user question once in a while, and I do answer when I get a notification email. Basically, for users it's like opening an issue, just less formal.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by ElijahLynn »

notsrg wrote: post #123

Gitter is a great idea in theory. In practice it's just been a place for my questions to go unanswered.

https://gitter.im/explore/tags/curated:frontend

There are some channels with thousands of users and high activity.

* VueJS 12,000+

* Webpack ~10,000

* angular.js ~8,500

* boostrap ~6,000

* docker ~4,000

* gulp ~2,500

* eslint ~1,000

* ansible <1,000

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by mrinterweb »

notsrg wrote: post #123

Gitter is a great idea in theory. In practice it's just been a place for my questions to go unanswered.

That is just not fair to say that gitter is the reason your questions go unanswered. Gitter is a chat technology. It depends on who you're chatting with not the underlying technology. Its like calling and ordering pizza, and then blaming your phone because the pizza is cold.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by andreineculau »

jbro72 wrote: post #145
andreineculau wrote: post #143

> Whilst drinking your tea, make sure you have Gulp installed. You can do this with npm install -g gulp. You may need to use sudo for this. How blind can you be not to understand how evil this request is to your users? And you request this because... because you don't want to `sed 's|gulp |node_modules/.bin/gulp|g' Makefile` ? Similarly, too hard to check npm's version in Makefile, and run or not run `linklocal` your…

Would you mind elaborating? As a user who would follow this instruction without thinking twice I'd like to understand better why this is a bad idea.

Two others touched on the sudo part but the global flag is as bad. So they have a gulp file that works with gulp "v1". Gitter goes bust (inactive), next year gulp is bumped to "v2", you want to try out gitter, gulp fails, you have to digg why. Another scenario is when another project asks you do the same, install gulp globally, but it actually means gulp "v0". Now you can't run to projects side by side.

Global deps should be versioned, the same way you do not see a respectable npm module with "*" semver in its package.json.

Seeing things like this in 2017 from smth like gitter! now owned by gitlab! is just a big red warning "amateur work, please look away".

How can you have a Makefile, a Makefile! and still require gulp, and still require people to run "npm install"? How? Where's the bare minimum logic?

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by andreineculau »

reimertz wrote: post #76

I just wish I had time to work in my side-project http://git.chat and investigate the ability to implement chat-like functionalities into the git-repo/protocol itself. I really think any kind of discussions related to open-sourced projects should be stored together with it rather than a 3rd party in a closed environment.

Start small: a CLI chat client, no auth (auth is the ability to push to the remote), install a fetch hook to notify user of unread chat msgs, done. At that point anyone can use it.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by moxious »

accnt wrote: post #139
notsrg wrote: post #123

Gitter is a great idea in theory. In practice it's just been a place for my questions to go unanswered.

That doesn't sound like a Gitter issue but a lack of activity in that particular project/community. Some projects prefer email/github issues over chat as there isn't an active community around it 24/7 for anyone to just jump in and ask away. I maintain an open source project where we have set up Gitter awhile ago. So far -even with a really small community like ours- I'm answering questions and interacting with users…

Totally not a gitter platform issue, but these platforms aren't really distinguishable from their user communities at the end of the day.

If Facebook only had 2-3 of your friends on it, no one would be impressed by the features and sophistication, they wouldn't get that far.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by dom96 »

Will the Android app be open sourced as well?

Btw on my phone the notifications are never cleared, always showing a super old message from hundreds of days ago for me. It's annoying because I cannot see why I got the notification. I wonder if this is already in your bug tracker.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by vikp »

dom96 wrote: post #158

Will the Android app be open sourced as well? Btw on my phone the notifications are never cleared, always showing a super old message from hundreds of days ago for me. It's annoying because I cannot see why I got the notification. I wonder if this is already in your bug tracker.

In the original blog post announcing the Gitlab acquisition (http://blog.gitter.im/2017/03/15/gitter-gitlab-acquisition/), there's mention of open sourcing the mobile apps -- "Next piece of wow: we will be open sourcing all of the Gitter. That’s right, the web application, the mobile apps, the whole nine yards, free and open."

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by bpicolo »

_ps6d wrote: post #150
bpicolo wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reddit repo doesn't have any commits since March. If that's their actual codebase, what are all their engineers doing?

It's not the actual codebase, it's kind of a branch that has to be manually updated (by cherry-picking across commits from the "real" one). It used to be kept in pretty close sync with the code live on the site, but it seems like they don't care about updating it any more. There are things that have been live on the site for close to a year now that aren't in the open-source repo.

That's roughly what I had guessed. Thanks for clarifying.
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