How did they go about promoting the site? I ask only because I have never even heard of Imzy until just now.
Imzy is shutting down
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#152"The site will go dark on June 23rd." (1) Two years is too little time to create a Reddit alternative (2) shutting it down in less than 30 days is really bad.
Reddit took off within months of its launch. ~30 days to download data is pretty standard.
Last I heard (in 2016), reddit was not yet profitable, but were working towards it.
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#153How do you burn through 8 million dollars in 2 years on what's basically a forum? This is crazy.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
I make an effort to not be intolerant but I have found myself being attacked for holding beliefs and political positions that are "outside of the mainstream" and there are people who can not tolerate that. I like that they made the attempt to build this but I would have never joined it because I could see myself getting into conflicts because of my beliefs.
Would you join a Subreddit which reinforces these political beliefs and is that not a safe space in itself? It seems to me that everywhere on the internet that you might class as a 'haven of free speech' (whether it's 4chan, Twitter, Mumsnet or Atheists Rationalist Skeptics Anonymous) comes with an underlying set of social norms which to some extent preconfigure the kind of debate that will happen there. Imzy is just…
Would you join a Subreddit which reinforces these political beliefs and is that not a safe space in itself?
If I understand your question, yes. I would join such a Subreddit because an echo-chamber isn't what I seek.
I completely agree with forbidding things like doxing or making threats of violence but I'm concerned that "Safe spaces" only encourage intolerance towards other points of view.
Disagreement is good. Maybe I'm wrong and you can show me a side that I had never considered. Maybe you're wrong and I can present an argument that changes how you think about something. I have had my mind changed by a persuasive argument in the past. Perhaps I will again in the future. I have friends that I have seen change their views over time and I hope that I was at least a part of what caused them to change on those issues.
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#155How do you burn through 8 million dollars in 2 years on what's basically a forum? This is crazy.
bay area salaries?
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
> shinier but harder to use give it time. reddit's not done shittying up their UI - hell, they're just getting started :)
Yeah, did you see this? https://i.redd.it/qzl5uzte483y.png /shudders/
They need to get rid of the sidebar. How often are you thinking I wish I could read the subreddit rules and moderator list constantly while I am browsing content? Obviously the sidebar content has value to be placed somewhere, but the sidebar along with 95% of custom CSS make the site even uglier than it needs to be.
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
Voat never raised millions in venture capital, though. (and can't given their content/userbase)
They will probably have a hard time raising from institutional investors, but my guess is their userbase is primarily single men who spend large amounts of time on the computer, a decent subset of whom have spending cash. The "goats" are also people who feel like they've been politically badgered into a corner, so I suspect they will spend to maintain their last refuge. Your will to fight goes up as the space you are…
Oh man, I know this is not always the most popular viewpoint, but I would be happy to live in a world in which "this woman should be raped for her opinions" had no place to be expressed, ever.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ugh...sadly Voat. They recently ran into budget problems (they run at $6k/month) and were able to raise enough to keep running for a few months and get volunteers help move it off Azure's overpriced hosting. So there's an example of site, without much money, building off their community. It's filled with a lot of hate, racism and extremism. I still like browsing it, just to see the opinions, try to understand where o…
> new accounts can't downvote either; you have to build 100 comment points -- which keeps that group think going At least they're more generous than HN's downvote restrictions. But I suspect it's the upvote limitations on voat that turn newcomers off more than anything, since every other site encourages you to handout 'likes'/upvotes like candy, making it quite the culture shock when you run up against that wall. Tha…
Yeah. I wonder how it'd effect usage if down votes from user with under X points simply don't count or have minimal impact. But the user would never really know?
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#159I wish the founders well, but I feel like people nowadays give up too early. And this is one of the most extreme examples of that. Most community sites take a while to grow and you really never know what will happen. Even Reddit was sort of a failure vs. Digg and they sold it off to conde nast. It was only later AFTER the sale when Digg messed up on their own and Reddit enjoyed success as a side effect. You really sh…
I feel that way too, but I think that's because many founders are opting for funding too early and build their entire operation on money they don't have.
When they're funded it's great, but when investors who are expecting some multiple quickly pull out it's game over.
I'm not sure if that's the case here, this is just a general thought about early shutdowns.
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
Voat never raised millions in venture capital, though. (and can't given their content/userbase)
They will probably have a hard time raising from institutional investors, but my guess is their userbase is primarily single men who spend large amounts of time on the computer, a decent subset of whom have spending cash. The "goats" are also people who feel like they've been politically badgered into a corner, so I suspect they will spend to maintain their last refuge. Your will to fight goes up as the space you are…
Which... I think is a great thing.
You think it's a great thing that there is less dialogue between people with differing opinions and more places that function as echo-chambers?