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1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Do you honestly think customs agents care whether you'll get fired or not? US immigrations will permanently sever families that have been together for years or even decades with utter disregard for the emotional trauma they're inflicting. Your job matters exactly fuck-all to a CPB agent.

I assume you're referring to illegal immigration, in which case there is at least a legal (if possibly not moral) basis for screwing people over. The story with stealing citizens' personal information is entirely different; there is almost certainly no legitimate legal basis to fuck over US citizens for excercizing the basic rights explicitly protected by the 4th and 5th amendments, just because they happen to be at…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception

The Supreme Court has actually weighed in on this and granted it a legitimate legal basis.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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In the law, intent matters. You're deleting the data with the intent to hide it from border agents. A federal prosecutor absolutely could argue that, if they wished.

You're deleting the data because you don't want to travel with that data . You're not hiding it. You literally just don't want to have access to it while you're traveling. In that sense it's no different than, say, leaving a hard drive with all your data behind (plugged into an internet-enabled computer that you can SSH in to and transfer your files back to yourself after you've crossed the border).

Read rosser's comment above. If push came to shove, your clever wordplay would amount to getting into a rules-lawyering contest with Federal prosecutors, and I promise you that is a contest you would lose.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you honestly think customs agents care whether you'll get fired or not? US immigrations will permanently sever families that have been together for years or even decades with utter disregard for the emotional trauma they're inflicting. Your job matters exactly fuck-all to a CPB agent.

I assume you're referring to illegal immigration, in which case there is at least a legal (if possibly not moral) basis for screwing people over. The story with stealing citizens' personal information is entirely different; there is almost certainly no legitimate legal basis to fuck over US citizens for excercizing the basic rights explicitly protected by the 4th and 5th amendments, just because they happen to be at…

But what about non-Americans? As a Canadian, I can have a very valid reason to go to the States, and even refusing a search once could cause me issues any time I try to go to the US.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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The right solution to this problem is, when traveling, always answer "no" to "may I search your laptop?" It sucks, and it many mean a lot of hassle ranging from confiscated equipment to being held at the border to being refused entry, but this is just one of the new risks of travel. Border security only gets away with this because people say yes. Companies need to make clear to their employees (and the public) that s…

Do you honestly think customs agents care whether you'll get fired or not? US immigrations will permanently sever families that have been together for years or even decades with utter disregard for the emotional trauma they're inflicting. Your job matters exactly fuck-all to a CPB agent.

You sound like a weak cunt with no spine

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Or why we have passwords at all. Sites like Medium have moved to a passwordless model, where you're sent a login link to access your account rather than forcing you to remember or retrieve a password. https://blog.medium.com/signing-in-to-medium-by-email-aacc21...

Where would you send a link to log into your email?

I was thinking it would be super cool if you could use something like https://krypt.co/ and use public key private key.

Sure, you would need that ssh daemon running on the computer, but I bet it could it could be retrofitted to use qr codes or something.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Counter: the border agent asks "are you hiding any information from us?". answer yes, and they get you to disable travel mode. answer no, and you just committed a felony.

As a general comment to so many of the follow-ups to this post: You really, really don't want to get into a rules-lawyering match with Federal fucking prosecutors over whether "clever technological solution" counts as "hiding" something or not. They have all of the guns in this situation, and you have a demonstrably inaccurate understanding of the relevant statute. You WILL lose.

Haha, your life matters more than standards. Weak cunts everywhere in this thread

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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This is a nice feature, but ultimately if you are concerned with border agents requiring a phone search then you should just backup and install a fresh OS before traveling, then restore when you get back. Log into the minimal number of apps after you've entered the destination country, and optionally delete/logout of said apps prior to return travel if the return border crossing is also a concern. Admittedly if you u…

That may be a solution, but I'm never going to have the time to do that personally.

Then stop complaining?

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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I don't know, I think the border is a no-man's land. They can pretty much keep you in limbo as long as they want. Edit: Yes, US citizens are allowed to ask for a lawyer (at the U.S. Border). But, the 4th Amendment is mostly out the window.

That's not really true. As a US Citizen, on basic legal principle, I believe that once Immigration has established you are a US Citizen, they have to let you leave unless they suspect you of a crime. Customs is sort of a different issue, they can go through your physical and digital belongings and search you.

They have to let you in, but they can confiscate everything you have with you at the border crossing.
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