Kotlin 1.1 supports coroutines what IHMO makes concurrency in a GUI much nicer. For example, it has C# like async/await methods; but more flexible...
Android now supports Kotlin
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Re: Android now supports Kotlin
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Codename One is open source and has a free edition without nag screen or any license restrictions. For that $19 you get more platforms and no need for a Mac etc.
But you have to use their BS cloud build service? Hell no.
Why so negative?
I'm also against "cloud everything" but here they seem to provide an actually useful service.
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Dart runs all of their AdSense code. I also believe your information about the usage of Go at Google is also out of date.
Dart runs the AdSense code, because the AdSense team rescued the Dart team when the decision came to them stop being part of Chrome development efforts. Regarding Go at Google, if you have better sources of information to share with those living outside Mountain View, it would be very helpful.
I've never heard of the story where the AdSense team rescued the Dart team. Do you have a citation for this?
Re: Android now supports Kotlin
#154The Instamotor Android app is entirely built using Kotlin.
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It's weird you'd accuse Kotlin of throwing stuff at the wall while simultaneously speaking kind of Scala. Scala has so many competing ideas & approaches just all mashed up into a blob.
Scala isn't so much a mishmash as it is fertile ground for people to do all kinds of weird stuff that looks like part of the language. Very much like C++, with the same potential for committing atrocities. And like C++ was, it's great from a programmer perspective (long lever, you get what you want/deserve) but bad from a corporate perspective. (Somehow C++ acquired an aura of corporate respectability, but in retrosp…
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Re: Android now supports Kotlin
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
Codename One is open source and has a free edition without nag screen or any license restrictions. For that $19 you get more platforms and no need for a Mac etc.
But you have to use their BS cloud build service? Hell no.
Instead of having both a Mac and PC which is the only other alternative that's physically legal.
Notice that this is a compile time feature, you don't need to use it for production.
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#157Funny, I was messing around with Kotlin for the first time last night. So far, the language seems well-structured and I really like that one gets all of Java's ecosystem without actually having to write java. (Also, "override fun" just sounds hilarious. Bwaha!) Throw in TornadoFX and Gluon Scene Builder (formerly of Oracle) and you're spinning up high-quality cross-platform GUIs faster than Atom, with a visual editor…
I call Kotlin Android's Swift.
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I have nothing against Kotlin. It seems to be coming out of nowhere to surpass more "tested" languages for lack of a better way of putting it, but as I'm reading about it I can truly see the appeal. The one thing I'm having trouble figuring out, though, is how much it diverges from Java in terms of inheritance, traits, etc. The verbosity of Java is one thing, but its inheritance system is what made me want to pull my…
I tend to agree. Sure, Kotlin is much more terse than Java. But looking at it I can't help much miss language features I've gotten used to in Rust, Haskell et al. I'm sure it's a wonderful language and an improvement over Java but there's nothing that excites me about it. Hey, at least they've got nullable types? That's a big win over Java right there.
> Hey, at least they've got nullable types? That's a big win over Java right there.
Can you elaborate what you mean by nullable types?
You can set Object variables to null and with primitives you can do the same with their boxed alternatives (Integer) but I assume you mean something different?
Like the lack of types which can't be null? I can see how that's useful
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#159Looks like Kotlin will soon be skyrocketing to the top of the TIOBE charts.
Disclaimer: I am always looking for that Unicorn. The one that will let me write my code once and run it on all platforms. I refuse to give up this quest. I use Pycharm and have used other Jetbrains IDE's in the past. They make me soooo very happy to use. That is, I have tried almost every Python IDE and suped up Vim/Emacs; None of them came close to Pycharm for me. They know cross platform. Their IDE's are just as b…
It's perpetually surprising to me that there isn't more competition in this space. Have you tried flutter.io?
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#160Google/Android's answer to Swift?
I prefer to think it's an answer to java/oracle.
I was curious how this fits in to the bad blood between Google and Oracle over java, but the 'reporting' I've read on the usual tech sites appears little more than rehashing the Google press release. Does this help them build a road away from Java entirely eventually? Could Kotlin eventually provide a route away from the JVM, especially this Kotlin native stuff on LLVM?