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Re: Turning Sublime Text into a Lightweight Python IDE

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That's why I said your definition is flawed. The point is to get work done, not do it all in a single window. you talked about "capability" as if because someone uses an external debugger you can't debug effectively or very well when using something like vim. It's a flawed definition of effective. When you use something like vim, the entire ecosystem is your IDE.

I've edited my OP and hopefully what I'm saying is more clear. If the entire ecosystem is your IDE, you're not "Turning Sublime Text into a Lightweight Python IDE". I don't know how else to phrase this to make it clear that I'm not attacking, denigrating, claiming inferior, etc., composite workflows like vim + GDB. But if you get to an article that says XYZ is now your IDE, and it offers a piss-poor debugging experie…

It doesn't matter if you're attacking, denigrating, claiming inferior, etc. The point you made is flawed or inaccurate, and that doesn't change because your motivations are clean.

Re: Turning Sublime Text into a Lightweight Python IDE

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I totally agree PyCharm's navigation and debugging functionality are fantastic. That said, when I last tried it (about 2-3 years ago), my Python code ran incredibly slow. I have a relatively large but not huge Django based python project (~2M LOC with libraries), but with debugging enabled my Python code practically ground to a halt. It's possible I misconfigured the debugger, and I can't remember how long I spent tr…

Pycharms 2017 debugger (pydev), is much faster now. You meed to use python 3.6 though. The debugger window suggests to install some bindings. If you do that the debugger runs much much faster.

I hate the 2.x / 3.x python split so much ... don't get me started.

Re: Turning Sublime Text into a Lightweight Python IDE

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Maybe I'm the exception, but I can't see why people, why programmers , bother investing their editing-skills in a closed-source editor and toolkit. Sublime is closed source. When it croaks up and dies, all the skills you've built up will be wasted, and you'll have to rebuild them elsewhere. Why not invest in something open instead? There's more options than ever before, and they're all good. For me, VS Code seems to…

Adobe Brackets is open sourced, and I don't see a ton of people heralding its usefulness. The same could be said of Eclipse. Just because it's open sourced doesn't make it useful or well-built.

Re: Turning Sublime Text into a Lightweight Python IDE

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Sublime has been around for a while. Why should it go away anytime soon? And even if it did, it's pretty stable and I bet will continue to work for years, even if the developers did stop working on it. I guess people prefer Sublime over Atom / VS Code because of its performance. To them (including me) that matters more than what might happen in 20yrs.

Slightly related : Does anyone use Textmate since it's been open-sourced ?

I do myself. It is good to see that it is still being developed, but I wish the dev would do a paid update with new features so I would worry less about it's future.
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