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Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Post by intoverflow2 » Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 10:08 AM UTC

eropple wrote: post #62

intoverflow2 wrote: post #60

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> including "automatically block accounts under X days old that @ me" How can a new user (who isn't a harasser) engage with the Twitter service if they get auto-blocked when they try to engage with anyone on the platform?

Personally? I interact with people I know, not #brands. And I do that by following, not by @'ing out of the blue. Everybody I know does the same. If somebody with a name I recognize follows me, I'm gonna follow them back and @'ing is fine.

> I interact with people I know

I prefer have far less public services for this. Feels like airing dirty laundry to do it on twitter

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Post by intoverflow2 » Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 10:45 AM UTC

dotnetisnotdead wrote: post #119

Karunamon wrote: post #76

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But there is a difference of orders of magnitude in both size and cohesiveness to wrestle with here The most non-snarky way I can put this is: "Citation needed". Something that is a left leaning/liberal phenomenon almost exclusively from my experiences is the propensity for shouting a statement into public, and then claiming that anyone who has the temerity to reply to their tweet with anything other than wholehearte…

I relate to this 100%. I'm a lifelong Democrat, but in the last 2 years the culture has changed so drastically, I am being pushed to the center. I'm not alone in this, and it's bad for democrats. They don't realize it just yet. The over use of "Bigot", "Racist", "Nazi", etc completely devalue the words. They take away their power. 10 years ago nobody wanted to be called a Nazi but now people laugh it off. That's dang…

>The over use of "Bigot", "Racist", "Nazi", etc completely devalue the words. They take away their power. 10 years ago nobody wanted to be called a Nazi but now people laugh it off. That's dangerous. We want to be be afraid of being called a racist. We want to discourage it.

Baffled me to watch Americans stumble into the exact same mistake the Brexit Remain campaign did. Calling people nazis and racists for having what they believe are moderate opinions does not make them sit back and re-evaluate it instead just solidifies their stance and they begin to shrug off being called racist.

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Post by iamatworknow » Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 2:47 PM UTC

nikdaheratik wrote: post #132

iamatworknow wrote: post #96

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>"We can do something, but it won't be completely effective, so we shouldn't do anything." Nice straw man. Again, where did I say that twitter shouldn't do anything?

Well then what exactly are you saying? From what I can see, it's either: "what Twitter is doing is useless so they should do nothing" or "banning people is bad because they'll continue to be abusive". Neither of these seems like a good argument to make.

I'm saying a "safe space" on a public (as in anyone can sign up without being vetted in some way) online service is not possible. Full stop. I never said twitter shouldn't do anything and I never said banning people is bad. To come to those conclusions based on my comments shows either a lack of reading comprehension skills or simply approaching them with your own biased predisposition that anyone who disagrees with you in some way disagrees with you in every way (an unfortunate and disgustingly common occurrence these days).

I'm suggesting to people who use these services that they should tamper their expectations about what can be done. Twitter will never be a "safe space". Can it be safer with some effort on their end? Maybe, but don't ever expect it to be a platform free from judgement about the beliefs you share, nor will it ever be free from those who would threaten or harass you for having those beliefs.

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Post by iamatworknow » Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 2:49 PM UTC

Sacho wrote: post #135

iamatworknow wrote: post #98

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>Twitter was basically unusable for a week afterwards. Can you imagine that shit all the time? I can't, because in such a situation I would just delete my account. Spending your time responding to or blocking and reporting all of them would be maddening, for sure, but that is what gives them their "power". It's easier to click only one or two buttons and just be done with it all. Let them have their little victory. D…

I don't use twitter, but I've heard and seen that there is a way to turn your account private, so only people you follow can tweet you. That seems like a much more proportioned solution to getting spammed by tweets, than outright deleting your account. This particular issue seems ripe for a technological fix from Twitter. It should be possible to tweak your privacy settings in such a way that you can turn down noise…

These are great comments that I fully agree with.

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 5:47 PM UTC

dotnetisnotdead wrote: post #141

eropple wrote: post #128

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> When Suzy soccer mom says she wants some stricter vetting for refugees I don't disagree with most of your post--but in the land of the real, it is very difficult to say that vetting for refugees in the United States is not already an intensely strict process. The people asserting it's not are self-described nationalists who wish to stop immigration...or are sourcing what they're saying from them. That's where the m…

>but in the land of the real, it is very difficult to say that vetting for refugees in the United States is not already an intensely strict process. The people asserting it's not are self-described nationalists who wish to stop immigration...or are sourcing what they're saying from them. I see your overall point, but the problem with the assertion here is Suzy's opinion is WRONG, not just different and it must be wro…

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