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A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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The UK has a similar visa for senior engineers: http://www.techcityuk.com/tech-nation-visa/ "This specific visa can be used for talent coming from anywhere in the world. As an example, we are aware of a recent senior hire from the US that got his visa returned to him in his passport exactly 28 days from submission. This specific visa puts an individual on track to Indefinite Leave to Remain and Citizenship with no ne…

The visa has a low annual quota of just 200.

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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post #66

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And that's when they don't go to finance/consulting/audit instead. But you can't really blame them given the salary difference.

Yeah, well, you can blame the "risk aversion" mentality though. It's a true waste of talent for the country.

There's very little risk in joining a startup in France. You'll get almost exactly the same benefits as someone working at a big co. Work hours, vacation, retirement, healthcare, unemployment: everything is regulated by labor laws.

But when a new grad from a top school can get 40k at a startup, no bonus no equity, or 70-80k total comp at Google, it's a no-brainer.

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone from the UK, my main reason for not moving anywhere else in Europe is the language barrier. I'm not even sure I'm capable of learning another language; 5 years in school trying to learn French + German, and can still only put together about two sentences. From what I remember, no one else seemed to really pick up the languages either.

Also from the UK and I have the upmost respect for anyone that can speak a second language. I find it incredibly difficult to get beyond a base vocabulary to actually being able to use the language without sounding like a cave man. I assume there'll be a "click" moment somewhere but its hard work getting there.

Incidentally, if you're sticking with Indo-European languages, once you're past the base vocabulary it gets easier, as the "complicated" words are more or less all the same:

telecommunication, Telekommunikation, Télécommunications/communication électronique, telecommunicatie, telecomunicación, etc.

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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post #60

Don't go there. The limit of freedom of speech is real and can block you. Even when you run a startup that has nothing to do with local politics or anything controversial. Plus, we are still in "state of emergency", that gives the state more rights than the patriot act. Go to the US, Canada or New Zealand.

Freedom of speech issues in France ?? I'd say a good reason not to come here is bureaucracy and taxes, but not issues with freedom of speech... Do you have some facts you'd like to share ?

France tries to regulate what people wear while sitting on the beach. It seems downright opposed to multiculturalism and diversity. Freedom of expression isn't just the right to write blog posts.

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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> Family: “Talent Passport – Family” residence permit granted to spouse of the main applicant, guaranteeing identical family treatment and automatic labor market access (as an employee, business founder, etc.).

I opened the link to see how it would treat families. Much to my surprise, it gives spouses access to the labor market, too.

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

#156

Apropos of this, I was in Paris recently at a startup event, and was pleasantly shocked at the sheer number of startups and people I saw doing things. This is a good move by the French, and will help attract entrepreneurs away from other countries (particularly like those just across the channel currently inflicting generational economic damage on themselves.)

As someone from the UK, my main reason for not moving anywhere else in Europe is the language barrier. I'm not even sure I'm capable of learning another language; 5 years in school trying to learn French + German, and can still only put together about two sentences. From what I remember, no one else seemed to really pick up the languages either.

I knew a colleague at work who tried for years learning German while serving in the U.S. Air Force in Germany. Never was able to pick it up.

Then one day he found his future wife who could speak only in German, and he picked it up instantly.

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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Apropos of this, I was in Paris recently at a startup event, and was pleasantly shocked at the sheer number of startups and people I saw doing things. This is a good move by the French, and will help attract entrepreneurs away from other countries (particularly like those just across the channel currently inflicting generational economic damage on themselves.)

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Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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post #122

No. Sorry. Not interested... French crypto regulations are absurd. https://yro.slashdot.org/story/16/03/03/235220/french-bill-c...

The article is misleading. This legislation [1] only apply to terrorism acts. And basically every modern country that was targeted has similar laws [2].

[1] http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/14/amendements/3515/AN/90....

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_disclosure_law

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

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post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some opinions are not only socially incorrect, they can get you to jail. Examples of forbidden topics: homosexuals, non-white people, jews, saying that you don't need health insurance… Of course not endorsing anything about those topics, just saying that forbiding any debate on those topics may not be a long-term solution to solve those societal questions. We get the popular far-right party FN for some reason I think…

You either have no idea what you're talking about or you're lying on purpose. Or both. Nobody has been jailed for "saying they don't need health insurance". Our freedom of speech, like in the rest of europe, is slightly more restrictive than in the US (as in: there is a concept of restricted hate speech) but the fact that the FN even exists should go a long way to showcase that you don't get jailed for stuff like tha…

I have updated my original post to provide some sources. It gets slightly off topic and noticeably too political for HN, so maybe we should stop debating about this here.

Re: A Visa for founders, engineers and investors willing to join France

#160
post #82

What are salaries like for mid-senior level software engineers working in tech companies in Paris? What are the tax rates i.e pay after taxes?

You'll definitely earn way less, but you'll be entitled to a lot of vacations (5~7 weeks of paid vacations). The Americans I know that went to work to France don't want to go back

So do the Americans like it in France and want to stay there? The wording of your comment makes it unclear.
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