Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M • Hacker News Board

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by disposition2 » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 3:34 PM UTC

akjainaj wrote: post #111

pretzel wrote: post #105

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There are a few new features over the last 5 years... * Merge checks * Build status (finally...) * Audit logs * Inline editing From: https://bitbucket.org/whats-new Nothing that keeps it above Github, but they always seem to maintain feature parity. /not a bitbucket shill //just don't like inaccurate comments.

It's okay. It's just that I tried to use it a few months ago and saw they still don't even have syntax highlighting for diffs. It's pretty depressing and it makes it look like they have abandoned the service.

It looks like they have added it now.

I wonder if they were slow on updating their site because of Sourcetree, which I personally love (especially since it is a cross-platoform [Mac/Win] GUI client).

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by pavel_lishin » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 3:34 PM UTC

throwaway5752 wrote: post #104

joemaller1 wrote: post #62

I'm a big fan of Trello but I dread using Atlassian products. I do not have a good feeling about this. Hopefully Atlassian can learn from what makes Trello so wonderful instead of JIRA-ifying it into oblivion.

Funny how much opinions can differ. I've used them both professionally and I think Trello scales poorly above 5-10 people while Jira is the least-worst option for running a project at any team size.

> Jira is the least-worst option for running a project at any team size.

If anyone here has ever been confused by the expression "damning with faint praise", I hope this is an illustrative example.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by pwelch » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 3:35 PM UTC

slantyyz wrote: post #128

throwaway5752 wrote: post #104

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Funny how much opinions can differ. I've used them both professionally and I think Trello scales poorly above 5-10 people while Jira is the least-worst option for running a project at any team size.

Fogbugz (also created by Fog Creek) is actually a pretty good alternative to JIRA.

That's interesting. I've used both and would rather use JIRA over FogBugz any day.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by wattt » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 3:37 PM UTC

chrisan wrote: post #102

joemaller1 wrote: post #62

I'm a big fan of Trello but I dread using Atlassian products. I do not have a good feeling about this. Hopefully Atlassian can learn from what makes Trello so wonderful instead of JIRA-ifying it into oblivion.

Trello is a JIRA competitor based on providing simplicity to task boards. Why would they JIRA-ify it? They would lose their audience who sought a JIRA alternative in the first place. From their blog post on the subject https://blogs.atlassian.com/2017/01/atlassian-plus-trello/ they seem to acknowledge this I happen to use, and like, both products. JIRA at work (where I want a lot of the features) and Trello for perso…

They will JIRA-fy it or kill it. I use JIRA and pay for it, it is hell on earth for teams of 2-5. We looked into switching to trello to reduce overhead but... It cost more for less features. So we stayed with JIRA.

They will kill trello so everyone is stuck with JIRA. Someone please make a trello clone with reasonable pricing, now!

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by slantyyz » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 3:37 PM UTC

willvarfar wrote: post #69

So Fog Creek - makers of Fogbugz, which lost out bigtime to JIRA - have now sold Trello to Atlassian? Is there nothing left of Fogbugz?

On a side note -- I don't know if they still do it (I believe they do), but Fog Creek used to give out free Fogbugz cloud accounts (2 user limit) to startups and students.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by anildash » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 3:38 PM UTC

manmal wrote: post #116

willvarfar wrote: post #69

So Fog Creek - makers of Fogbugz, which lost out bigtime to JIRA - have now sold Trello to Atlassian? Is there nothing left of Fogbugz?

There was a blog post very recently where they said they will double down on http://gomix.com now.

We're definitely investing in Gomix and we'll be revitalizing FogBugz this year, too — especially for folks who don't find Jira a satisfying or delightful way to work.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by anildash » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 3:39 PM UTC

slantyyz wrote: post #148

problems wrote: post #141

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Fogbugz seems to really be pushing their cloud stuff though, so I basically ruled it out instantly when I was researching options - it's unacceptable to have to host our code and tracker off-premises on hardware we don't control. Whereas even a small team can run JIRA or GitLab on their own hardware for a very reasonable price.

They still offer an on-premises version though. IIRC, their on-prem version price was fairly reasonable (that was almost 10y ago though)

(I'm the CEO at Fog Creek.) We've updated the on-premise version of FogBugz to be completely in sync with the hosted version, so all the latest features are on both now.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by wattt » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 3:39 PM UTC

ryanSrich wrote: post #98

rb808 wrote: post #82

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It makes sense mainly because Trello is a competitor to Atlassian and its best to kill it now before it takes too much market share. edit: Yes right now there might not be an exact competitor but in a few years it could easily match everything Jira does.

Is Trello really a competitor though? JIRA and Trello couldn't be more different. I'd think Trello and Asana are much closer competitors. JIRA is like an over engineered spaceship with more features than anyone could learn in a lifetime. Comparatively Trello functions more like a Prius. Priuses and spaceships don't compete.

Yes, I just recently evaluated switching my small team from JIRA->trello. I'd do it in a heartbeat if the licensing costs were better aligned.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 3:40 PM UTC

slantyyz wrote: post #148

problems wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fogbugz seems to really be pushing their cloud stuff though, so I basically ruled it out instantly when I was researching options - it's unacceptable to have to host our code and tracker off-premises on hardware we don't control. Whereas even a small team can run JIRA or GitLab on their own hardware for a very reasonable price.

They still offer an on-premises version though. IIRC, their on-prem version price was fairly reasonable (that was almost 10y ago though)

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Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by anildash » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 3:41 PM UTC

yeasayer wrote: post #33

Why did Fog Creek approved this acquisition? With products like Stack Overflow, Trello and GoMix I thought they want to become a big player on the market of software development. Why sell our own assets?

Fog Creek and Trello are two separate companies that share cofounders (and an office here in NYC!) so we at Fog Creek are happy for Trello but it's not an asset of ours.