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Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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Males have evolved to extract resources from the environment. Females have evolved to extract resources from males.

Low-substance comments about inflammatory topics, like this one, end up triggering flamewars, like this one. We're trying to avoid those on HN. They're boring—alternately flippant and nasty—and if the term 'stupid' has a local definition, this would be it. There are other places on the internet where you can ply that art if you want to. If you want to continue to post to HN, please behold the damage you wrought and r…

I thought HN welcomed diversity of opinion.

Starting flamewars was not my intention.

When I posted the comment the title of this posting was quite different and it made more sense in that context.

If you wished to ask me to substantiate the comment - you could have done exactly that, no need for threats.

EDIT: I've read the thread in it's entirety.

You're right, it's not the level of discussion I had hoped for.

But I will still maintain that I acted with intellectual integrity and if people have collectively steered towards the lowest common denominator - that is just the way people are.

A sign of times perhaps, but so was this US presidential election. I subscribe to Marcus Aurelius' philosophy of stoicism: "All men are made one for another: either then teach them better, or bear with them."

Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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Males have evolved to extract resources from the environment. Females have evolved to extract resources from males.

Second comment from the top, "Women are gold diggers." Screencapping this for when HN's users claim they don't make the tech space awful for women.

I'll refer you to this book by a female writer, it is a light read and she presents the point that I made far more eloquently and persuasively than I could in the limited space of a HN comment: https://dontmarry.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/the_manipulate...

Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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I think he means restricted to humans. In the animal kingdom you have uncommon scenarios such as seahorses where the male caries the fertilized eggs or spiders where many times the male is just eaten by the female.

How do you mean "restricted to humans"? What exact cases do you have in mind?

I made the original comment in this thread, let me attempt to clarify.

The person you replied to thought that I was referring to humans exclusively (Close enough, I had not only humans but most primates in mind), while a comment above that level the person thought that I was referring very broadly to animal kingdom.

Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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Males have evolved to extract resources from the environment. Females have evolved to extract resources from males.

"By all means marry; if you get a good wife, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher." --Socrates

Spoken like a true footballer.

Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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If you have a problem with the post, state what it is. Bashing HN for whatever "hive" you see it containing is baiting.

It's a factual statement, not baiting, to observe that her comment was [flagged] instantly for containing a passing "downvoting" remark, while the original comment is still one of the highest voted comments in this thread. This confirms that, indeed, the HN audience does not see any serious problems with the statement: "Females have evolved to extract resources from males.", which is exemplified by your request to st…

> which is exemplified by your request

I requested nothing. If you care to offer you opinions do so, but do just that rather than speculate - the lack of down-votes for the above post confirms nothing, you are speculating; whereas challenging the content of the post directly might reveal more.

Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have a problem with the post, state what it is. Bashing HN for whatever "hive" you see it containing is baiting.

It's a factual statement, not baiting, to observe that her comment was [flagged] instantly for containing a passing "downvoting" remark, while the original comment is still one of the highest voted comments in this thread. This confirms that, indeed, the HN audience does not see any serious problems with the statement: "Females have evolved to extract resources from males.", which is exemplified by your request to st…

That comment was directly at odds with HN's guidelines:

"Please resist commenting about being downvoted. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading."

And when Colin Percival, a widely respected member of community quoted exactly that excerpt, that person got combative and doubled down, throwing baseless accusations of some kind of MRA conspiracy.

Frankly, I am disturbed by a display of such callousness, not giving people the benefit of the doubt.

Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Second comment from the top, "Women are gold diggers." Screencapping this for when HN's users claim they don't make the tech space awful for women.

That's pure sample bias. You can support anything that way. Which is not to say that this thread isn't bullshit.

When individual comments on Reddit or HN get voted up, they cease to be sample bias and become a reflection of the community's opinion. That's what these sites do.

I guarantee you'd never see a comment like that voted up on r/2xc.

It's a clear indication of a problem with the community, and there's no way you don't see that...?

Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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Humans do this too, on occasion. Apart from the obvious but difficult-to-verify night club anecdotes, here's a well-known historical example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_feather#World_War_I

This is anecdotal: girl I know had a guy push her after a bad joke in a group while everyone was drinking. I don't think the guy meant any harm by it, he didn't cause her any harm. He should keep his hands to himself but it was clearly not done with ill intent nor was it hard enough to hurt her.

She later said that was 'violent,' then it turned into, that was 'rape.' Really.

She tried badmouthing about that guy to some other drunk guys at a bar to do her bidding to get revenge. Nothing came of it, except some mean comments towards that guy.

The next day I asked her about it and she was quite belligerent in discussing it. So I didn't continue. When getting up to leave she was joking about how in the past at a night club she had gotten two guys to beat up another guy because she didn't like that guy.

Anyways, I feel like this might happen a lot more than is reported. The guy who this happened to said he 'just didn't want any more trouble' so he wasn't going to follow up on it and report her or do anything else.

That girl even made some comment about how 'guys are rapists.' WTF

Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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He has admitted that it's a sock-puppet account. He stated himself that he has created dozens of accounts and that uses them to post even when his accounts are throttled due to down-voting. How is stating a fact a personal attack?

> How is stating a fact a This is a trope of the serial troll. If you don't want to be banned from HN for trolling, please communicate in better faith. I don't believe 75j is a sock-puppet account. I think it's the primary account that user is currently using. They need to do a better job of following the site guidelines, and I've chided them about that in this thread, but it doesn't mean that what you've done is ok.…

> I don't believe 75j is a sock-puppet account.

Thank you for the benefit of the doubt. I am not a sock puppet -- if you look at all those accounts you'll see that absolutely none have any overlap chronologically in terms of posting (well, until last night) or voting.

Sorry dang. But, I got deeply offended by being called a liar. I've posted projects on this current account that link to my real identity, so it was important I guess for me to clear my name. I'm also petty like that, but not normally to the extent that it causes problems. I think I've gotten one prior and much milder warning from you over the course of my time on HN. I'll go back to lurking for a while for now.

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