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Re: Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team

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Thiel has some extremish views, but I generally regard him as intelligent and thoughtful. "He seems intelligent and thoughtful, but has scarily extremist views" might be a better angle to take.

Any specific highlights?

He's a climate change denier, it would appear.

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I feel like there's a conflict of interest here...

There's a conflict of interest in each of his secretary picks, too. It's disgusting. I don't write often, or even blog, but I felt the need to vent on some of the issues of the picks here: https://medium.com/@joshbrody_36224/dear-president-elect-tru...

Did you scrutinize Obama's picks just as heavily?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-14/most-important-wiki...

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This was obvious from the RNC speech and further reinforced when Thiel donated $1M to Trump. A contrarian bet, sure, but $1M is a pretty small price to pay to have a 50/50 shot at CTO of the USA. I'm sure he'll see a very significant ROI on his $1M once the government starts awarding contracts very conveniently to companies of which he owns a portion. I had very negative feelings about Thiel, and those were magnified…

Shrewd seems unfair. Political views and ethics aside, it turns out he's a genius.

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Re: Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team

#154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. He lied, as many on the left said he was. Here[0], there is talk Jamie Dimon was considered by his advisors for Treasury. To be fair, Dimon declined, but it shows that Trump at least surrounds himself with people who don't give two shits about his "helping the little man." [0] http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/10/donald-trump-advisors-conside...

> He lied, as many on the left said he was. Please drop the partisan angle on this. This isn't a left/right difference. Obama campaigned with a similar promise and he still selected lobbyists for his administration: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/08/15/th... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Wheeler

I never said people on the left don't do it. Yes, Obama did it too. The point is Trump isn't what he appears to be, in fact he appears very similar to Obama in the sense that he convinced many people there would be change for the better but all evidence points to that he will just perpetuate the system which he rallied against (which Obama did too).

Re: Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team

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post #21

This was obvious from the RNC speech and further reinforced when Thiel donated $1M to Trump. A contrarian bet, sure, but $1M is a pretty small price to pay to have a 50/50 shot at CTO of the USA. I'm sure he'll see a very significant ROI on his $1M once the government starts awarding contracts very conveniently to companies of which he owns a portion. I had very negative feelings about Thiel, and those were magnified…

Shrewd seems unfair. Political views and ethics aside, it turns out he's a genius.

What do you imagine "shrewd" means?

Re: Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team

#156

Great, another climate change denier https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-views-of-the-Thiel-Founda...

https://youtu.be/CoxxGhLFbw4?t=2m30s

Wow, that's some faulty logic he's expressing there.

As an aside, what's wrong with his cheek? Did he have an accident or some bad plastic surgery?

Re: Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team

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In context his suggestion is that women being allowed to vote is incompatible with enacting his ideal philosophy of government. Which in turn implies that the only way to implement his ideal philosophy of government would be to deny women the right to vote.

His ideal form of government is minimal enough that voting is superfluous. That you infer nefarious motive speaks not at all to what was actually implied.

His ideal form of government is minimal enough that voting is superfluous.

What about the vote to set it up in the first place?

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Is there a kind of "political correctness" that refuses the acknowledgment of facts and likelihoods that sound similar to irrational dismissal? Does that kind prevent people from hearing the following things which I think most people would agree to be true? -Donald Trump says he wants to completely deregulate the banking industry, which will most likely, in the long term, lead to a crisis on par with or greater than…

-Donald Trump has appointed a "climate skeptic," which means, "dangersous liar," to head the Environmental Protection Agency. He has already sent out many other signals that he intends to cease any US efforts to combat Global Warming, which will have the effect of destabilizing the various international agreements that might have ameliorated its effects. It currently seems likely that Trump will single-handedly prevent the world from achieving a viable response to this threat for another four years.

The president does not appoint cabinet level officials, the president nominates them and they are approved by Congress.

And there hasn't been a formal nomination, just a floating of the name.

Anyway, the point is that everyone who votes to approve the various cabinet officials should be held responsible for the things that follow, not just the president.

Re: Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team

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The quote explicitly names "women getting the vote" as one of the factors that has turned ".. democracy" into an "oxymoron". Picking and choosing in or out groups is not "democracy".

You left out "capitalist democracy", his point is that capitalism and democracy are mutually exclusive concepts when women are allowed to vote since they tend to vote for socialism.

So why say "women" instead of "socialists"? You can choose to be a socialist or not, but a women?

But it's great you have realized the principal mistake here.

Re: Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team

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I don't understand how a gay man can support a political party who's platform wants to reverse marriage equality.

Just because he's gay doesn't mean he supports marriage equality. Given Thiel's political views I would guess that he thinks that the government shouldn't care about _anyone's_ marriage, gay or straight. So rather than fight for marriage equality for gay couples he'd fight for marriage deregulation for everyone, including straight couples (e.g. no special tax treatment, no special legal protections for spouses).
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