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Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by Asdfbla »

SolaceQuantum wrote: post #17

Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed. So, what policies can be…

I think it's an interesting issue because Trump pretty much stands for nothing that could help those people. Maybe the nth time is a charm and the incoming tax breaks for the wealthy will eventually trickle down, but I doubt it.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by ones_and_zeros »

koolba wrote: post #70

As someone who's actively vocalized his support for Trump in the past, both here[1] and in my meat space life, I'm ecstatic with the results of this election. Not just the POTUS, but the trifecta of the house and senate as well. That's as loud of a mandate as can be expected from a strongly divided country. On top of all that, with the SCOTUS picks that are expected in the next few years, this election is going to be…

Can you explain to me what direction the country voted to move in? I'm really really trying to understand but all I see for the Trump voters is more economic pain under Trumps policies and I think will ultimately lead to more division as they dig their heels in as more time passes where they don't see the change they want. Trump supporters were sold the idea that illegal immigrants, legal immigrants, non-white people, muslims and gay people were a threat to the country and their livelihood. Removing these "threats" as Donald Trump has proposed will only benefit those at the top. So where does that leave us? Putting the screws to the perceived threats even more?

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by DamnYuppie »

lettergram wrote: post #128

For better or worse, Trump's probably the next president... The weird part about this election, is the electoral college could still pull a fast one on us and elect someone else. There are quite a few of electors and governors who REALLY hate Trump. If anyone's curious, the elector college votes in December[1]. Edit : I don't think this will happen, but in a world where Trump won, anything is possible. [1] https://ww…

I am not saying this out of anger or angst. If that was done the civility of the disenfranchised electorate, which showed up in force this election, would erode and devolve into violence at a pace that would astound those on the left.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by commenting »

hourislate wrote: post #62

I can't help but think how this election will look tame in comparison to what is to come. AI and Automation will continue to savage employment. Environment will continue to degrade. Millions of more in America and around the world will feel like they have been left behind. Where do we go from here?

Indeed, and with regards to the environment, it's particularly worrying that Trump intends to reverse all the progress made so far in the US on addressing climate change.

(Though to be honest, that's one of my lesser worries concerning a Trump presidency. Along with increasing discrimination and divisiveness within the US, it's likely his proposed foreign policy changes will enable Putin to annex further regions of Eastern Europe.)

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by dang »

pikzen wrote: post #138
dang wrote: post #2

We buried the previous thread on this because, at almost 2000 comments, it was pegging the server. If you'd like to read it, and don't intend to comment, you could help your fellow users by logging out first, so we can serve you the page from cache: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12907201 . If you do intend to comment, please take extra care to do so civilly and substantively, in the spirit of this site. Most p…

It pegged the server with... 2000 comments? Does HN run on a raspberry Pi or something?

There's a lot of processing going on when rendering HN threads. For logged-out users we can cache them, but for logged-in users everything's served from a single core running Arc in Racket.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by st3v3r »

The reason people are demonizing Trump supporters is because they ran on a ticket of undoing just about all of the progress that many had fought hard for over the past eight years. LGBTQ rights are likely out the window, as is any hope at gender equality or income equality. So forgive me if I have no sympathy whatsoever for those that are being "demonized" on social media, as they likely aren't going to have to face any actual consequences for this decision.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by snowwrestler »

sndean wrote: post #23

I wonder how long this populist wave that's spreading over the west [0] is going to continue? [0] https://research.hks.harvard.edu/publications/getFile.aspx?I... [pdf]

Until the generation that is driving it dies off, so probably ~20 years.

I'm being flippant, but--look at the vote splits by age. Young voters in the UK overwhelmingly voted against Brexit. Young voters in the U.S. overwhelmingly voted against Trump.

The voice of populism today is the voice of economic and cultural disenfranchisement. It is difficult to re-employ millions of 60-year-old folks whose skills are out of date. It is difficult to get 60-year-old folks who have spent their lives in a homogeneous town, to accept multicultural diversity.

They are crying out for help and success again, and we'll continue down this course as a society until we either give it to them, or they leave us.

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Post by [deleted] »

dang wrote: post #22
zeusk wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious, why is that just two thousand comments would bog down the server? What kind of processing is done by the server to render a thread?

Oh man—all kinds of stuff. The visible bits are an iceberg tip. And it all runs in a Racket process on a single core. That mammoth thread at least tells us where the brick wall is: at about two 'who is hiring's.

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Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by hx87 »

imglorp wrote: post #72
happytrails wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those old jobs are never coming back.

No, and it's going to get much worse when the coming automation waves hit. We need a sociological solution. Perhaps base income?

Yes to basic income--if democratic socialists and Milton Friedman can agree on an idea, it's worth trying out at least.
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