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Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Pulling out your phone and fiddling with it isn't especially easy or advised in many situations where people use GoPros.

And having the phone connected to your battery exhausts the battery really fast.

plus their app sucks.

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A company that built lasting products of high quality wouldn't earn profits? Hmmmmmm[0] [0] https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3AAAPL&fstype=ii&ei=...

haha is this a joke? Apple basically forces you to upgrade your phone every two years, by releasing a mandatory OS update that makes older phones slow as dirt. I'm talking about my mom's 1957 Ford pickup that still runs great today. I'm talking about the Ostrisizer can opener from the 1970s that my family still uses in their kitchen. 5 years lifetime for a $800 product is not "built to last".

A 1957 Ford pickup is going to be an absolute deathtrap in an accident. I'm not sure that's a great example.

Not quite that exact combo, but you get the idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPF4fBGNK0U

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I almost bought the new Session just a few weeks ago. After seeing these comments, I'm glad I didn't. The reason I didn't buy is I realized how much they are screwing people by charging crazy prices for essential add-ons. $xx for a basic mount (a piece of plastic), $xx for a bolt to connect to the mount, $xx for a case, $xx for a charging kit, and so on and so on. You thought you were buying a $400 gadget but suddenl…

A Xiaomi Yi can do 1080p60 for $90 or less - and works fine. It's about the size of a GoPro. I use it as a helmet cam on my motorcycle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAYgVvbXkLU I made my own helmet mount for the Yi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3w-twe4seQ A Mobius ActionCam can do 1080p30 or 720p60 at $75 and it's even smaller - about the size of a matchbox, or keychain dongle. I use it on mini-quadcopters; my…

Seconding a Yi. Especially with the newer firmwares. (It'll do 2k video capture that upscale reasonably to 4k supposedly, but I use 1080p).

The app is a bit clunky, but the camera is spectacular value compared to the GoPros near the price bracket.

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My main complaint is that it's difficult to determine camera state. My main use case is having it mounted to a motorcycle where I can reach the buttons but can't safely or easily see the indicator LEDs. Is it on? Is it recording? I have some awesome videos of me sitting on a curb in front of a gas station drinking a Gatorade because I thought it was recording the whole time, and it turns out that when I pulled up and…

I find the audio cues particularly useful - turn them on, set them loud and learn them well. Before this I used to be really frustrated as well, so I completely sympathise. I motorbike, mountain bike, rock climb and race cars with the gopro, and the only thing I pay attention to is the audio cues.

Same here. Audio queues only. No one wants to wait for you to get your camera in the right mode or pair... Not to mention battery life of the remote and the camera. I have never gotten the remote to work on an actual trip. Only while testing at home.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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So, I'm starting a VR project that's going to need 180-degree (or thereabouts) stereoscopic video. Ready to spend money on cameras and actually get started. "Cool! This should be straightforward, everyone uses GoPro cameras for that, so a I'll need to buy two GoPros!" was my immediate thought. All ready to give GoPro my money. Oh, but they dropped stereo genlock after the 3+..... wait what?!?! VR filmmaking is one of…

You want to look at the Xiaomi Yi 4k. They have an API for IOS and Android to do exactly this. https://www.facebook.com/groups/YIOpenAPI/ Just say yes to excess: http://panotek360rigs.com/product/hydra360-xiaomi-yi-2-4k/ Also, on the FB forum, there are a bunch of experimental rigs and some apps.

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I think GoPro suffers from two problems. 1. Many people buy these camera's that never use them, or use them a few times but realize editing videos takes longer than they hoped it would. So after a while of non use, they sell the camera. 2. They built a good product, one that lasts and is therefore good for the used market. People are comfortable buying a used GoPro because they know it's rugged and well built. So GoP…

>People are comfortable buying a used GoPro because they know it's rugged and well built. My GoPro 2 is still going quite strong, despite having hit the asphalt on at last two occasions at high speed (well, high for a bicycle) due to their plastic mounts breaking. I switched to a third-party, metal mount, and haven't looked back.

So perhaps the issue is that they made a good product that never needs replacing. Is 4K recording a large enough draw? What is the saturation of 4K TVs so far? Could all contribute.

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So, I'm starting a VR project that's going to need 180-degree (or thereabouts) stereoscopic video. Ready to spend money on cameras and actually get started. "Cool! This should be straightforward, everyone uses GoPro cameras for that, so a I'll need to buy two GoPros!" was my immediate thought. All ready to give GoPro my money. Oh, but they dropped stereo genlock after the 3+..... wait what?!?! VR filmmaking is one of…

Not 180, but you could buy that $15,000.00 go pro camera set for 360 video haha Although I think truly immersive 360 video would require not only stereoscopic eg. Dual cameras per fov, but also that new camera technology that captures at multiple depths of field. Litho or something don't know what it's called. Then you can focus on different focal points of the video like up close or super faraway

You're thinking of the Lytro light field cameras.

https://lytro.com/

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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So, I'm starting a VR project that's going to need 180-degree (or thereabouts) stereoscopic video. Ready to spend money on cameras and actually get started. "Cool! This should be straightforward, everyone uses GoPro cameras for that, so a I'll need to buy two GoPros!" was my immediate thought. All ready to give GoPro my money. Oh, but they dropped stereo genlock after the 3+..... wait what?!?! VR filmmaking is one of…

If you're doing any sort of software development requiring cameras GoPro is definitely NOT the way to go. We use Point Grey for our camera equipment. Not only are the cameras very high quality, but their API is a developer's dream.

Unlike GoPro's overreaching application process, $100, or $1k fee, and an extremely limited API/features, these guys practically shove as much documentation and libraries down your throat that they can. I fucking love Point Grey cameras.

https://www.ptgrey.com/blackfly-usb3-vision-cameras

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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I try not to generalize personal experience to a company's stock price. But in GoPro's case I'm picturing a bunch of folks like me who bought one, and then swore to never again buy anything with GoPro's name on it. And those people tell their friends who are considering an "action camera". So you end up with a segment of customers from whom you'll never extract another dime, plus all of the people who might have boug…

GoPro is a poor shape to use with motorbikes; helmet mounts in particular are ludicrous. Any particular reason you didn't consider Drift? Fairly happy with mine, using it as a helmet-cam.

which drift do you have? i'm in the market for a helmet cam and was strongly considering a hero 5...until i saw this thread.
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