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Re: Microsoft Shares Soar to Record on Earnings Boost From Cloud

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Post by mattnewton »

NetStrikeForce wrote: post #116
FT_intern wrote: post #84

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>I was totally bought in. why?

I can't answer for Op, but I've been a Linux user at work for many years and OSX at home. I sold my last Mac in 2013 and used Linux for a couple of years until I tried Windows 10. I never used (or plan to use) Windows for servers. I had interest in Nano Server, then I realized it's not free and although running in the cloud I could probably feel no big difference in spending, I just don't have expertise (or will to l…

Is it really better than Ubuntu though? I guess I don't use Microsoft office at all, so that could be a compelling reason, but Linux can be Linux with any kind of UI you want. Which for me is anything other than the touch-centric metro monstrosity with pages and pages of menus. You can make it your machine instead of microsofts auto-restarting spyware bundle of bugs

Re: Microsoft Shares Soar to Record on Earnings Boost From Cloud

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Post by IndianAstronaut »

fnbr wrote: post #42

Microsoft has been doing an incredible job lately. With the announcement of native support for Ubuntu binaries, I've been excited to try Microsoft products for the first time. Additionally, as someone who writes a lot of bash scripts, I'm excited that I'll be able to use them across platforms. The two main reasons I use Apple computers instead of Windows are build quality & the UNIXy background of macOS, and with the…

Have you tried SQL Server R integration? Wondering if it helps to scale up R.

Re: Microsoft Shares Soar to Record on Earnings Boost From Cloud

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Post by fnbr »

IndianAstronaut wrote: post #152
fnbr wrote: post #42

Microsoft has been doing an incredible job lately. With the announcement of native support for Ubuntu binaries, I've been excited to try Microsoft products for the first time. Additionally, as someone who writes a lot of bash scripts, I'm excited that I'll be able to use them across platforms. The two main reasons I use Apple computers instead of Windows are build quality & the UNIXy background of macOS, and with the…

Have you tried SQL Server R integration? Wondering if it helps to scale up R.

No, I haven't had the right project come up (I'm a statistical consultant, so my projects are largely determined by my clients).

I've heard really good things about it though. It's supposed to scale well.

It's on the list as something I plan to use in the near future. We've had projects in the past where we shipping Excel workbooks that had VBA written to integrate with R from the command line, which is a horrible thing to do to both Excel and R. Replacing that with a cleaner integration will be nice.

Re: Microsoft Shares Soar to Record on Earnings Boost From Cloud

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Post by jschwartzi »

mtgx wrote: post #86
criddell wrote: post #66

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Windows 10 is 90% great for me. The 10% that annoys me is mostly around the way update works. If you have long running processes (like security camera DVR software, big render jobs, etc...) having the OS decide to reboot in the middle of the night is a bit of a headache. I know you can disable the update service, but it would be nice if they just put that in the windows update UI. The other part that bugs me are the…

> I know you can disable the update service No, you can't in Windows 10.

We did this for our QA team because of our organization's configuration management policies. Previously Microsoft updates would install broken drivers for their test equipment.

Re: Microsoft Shares Soar to Record on Earnings Boost From Cloud

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Post by dpark »

criddell wrote: post #81
StillBored wrote: post #62

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Windows 10 seems to be degrading rather than getting better. It seems to have reached windows ME levels of stability on most of my devices. Leaving the win7/8 machines looking pretty good. The cool kids are always messing with it, so the stodgy maintenance programmers never get a couple years to fix all the crap they break. Plus, the non stop UI "quirks" are probably worse than I can remember. The whole OS has turned…

According to Reddit, Microsoft laid off all their QA people in November of 2014: https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/3s14un/just_a_remi...

That's not what happened. Layoffs were across the company but mostly focused on "redundancies" with the Nokia purchase. Of the non-Nokia-related layoffs, SDE, SDET, and PM were all affected. SDET took a bigger hit but it was nowhere near all of them. The discipline was renamed "quality".

Later, the quality org was merged with engineering, "eliminating" the testers by making them devs. This change happened across the company but not simultaneously.

Disclosure: Microsoft employee, but this has all been reported on. e.g. Ars Technica covered part of this:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/08/how-mi...

Re: Microsoft Shares Soar to Record on Earnings Boost From Cloud

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Post by derricgilling »

solipsism wrote: post #124
mattmanser wrote: post #54

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Seriously? The portal is bad so use a CLI? I don't want to have to look up the commands every time I want to run a thing I do once a month, quarter or year. I just want to click a button that doesn't take 20 fucking seconds to load and isn't buried amongst a ton of useless menu items. The joke in our office is that the Azure team gave the portal interface to the interns to do. It's a UI that's poorly thought out, poo…

Certain types of people with amazing memories like CLIs, but please don't inflict them on the rest of us. They're shit. Stupid thing to say. CLIs are much more flexible than GUIs. You can't feed one GUI component's output into the input of another. They're not for everyone or for every use-case. But CLIs will be around longer than you will.

The Node CLI is pretty good. Almost does everything the Powershell CLI does and works across platforms.

Their web portal is a lot better after they moved to the new "preview" one. The classic portal was pretty bad, but their transition from the classic to the new portal was even worse. There was a time period where certain operations were only available in the classic portal and other services were only available in the new portal. The transition took many, many months (maybe a year) and the new portal was initially very slow.

If you look at Google Cloud's and AWS admin portal, they are not really any better. Probably is a result of these cloud providers providing so many services, it's hard to organize it all. The others have faults also. For example, I hate how AWS does their form validation when creating new resources. You don't even know what's wrong until after clicking "submit" / "create", azure is more single page app like. With AWS, if the service you are creating requires a dependent resource like an s3 bucket for logging, you have to go create that dependency first. With Azure, you can choose to use an existing dependent resources or create new ones all in a single operation. There also seems to be less organization in AWS. With Azure, I like how Azure does their directory structure of sub panes. You can view all services at once with particular ordering like datacenter region or drill into a particular resource group or service type. With AWS, you always have to go to that particular service's "website" whether S3 or DynamoDB, etc.

Re: Microsoft Shares Soar to Record on Earnings Boost From Cloud

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Post by NetStrikeForce »

mattnewton wrote: post #151
NetStrikeForce wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't answer for Op, but I've been a Linux user at work for many years and OSX at home. I sold my last Mac in 2013 and used Linux for a couple of years until I tried Windows 10. I never used (or plan to use) Windows for servers. I had interest in Nano Server, then I realized it's not free and although running in the cloud I could probably feel no big difference in spending, I just don't have expertise (or will to l…

Is it really better than Ubuntu though? I guess I don't use Microsoft office at all, so that could be a compelling reason, but Linux can be Linux with any kind of UI you want. Which for me is anything other than the touch-centric metro monstrosity with pages and pages of menus. You can make it your machine instead of microsofts auto-restarting spyware bundle of bugs

Define better :)

I don't think it's better than Ubuntu, but it's not worse. There are some aspects where Windows would be a no-brainer (gaming) and others where it is catching up with Linux (development outside Visual Studio? I'm just a hobbyist).

I never got 3 monitors to work reliably on Ubuntu or Fedora, though. Apart from that, I could probably switch back to Ubuntu and be as happy.

Re: Microsoft Shares Soar to Record on Earnings Boost From Cloud

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Post by msftiethrowaway »

mattmanser wrote: post #54
jesusjzp wrote: post #29

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Portal is one of the interfaces for Azure resources management. I'd highly suggest you to take a look at PowerShell CLI and Azure Node.js CLI.

Seriously? The portal is bad so use a CLI? I don't want to have to look up the commands every time I want to run a thing I do once a month, quarter or year. I just want to click a button that doesn't take 20 fucking seconds to load and isn't buried amongst a ton of useless menu items. The joke in our office is that the Azure team gave the portal interface to the interns to do. It's a UI that's poorly thought out, poo…

The joke in MS offices that use the portal UX is often that it was a UI designed by Designers, or at least by someone who only ever saw screenshots of the UX in a powerpoint.

It's not much comfort, but know at least that the internal engineers feel the pain as much as you do and would love to see improvement in that area, but right now there seems to be a surprising amount of likely political willpower pushing its use against informed resistance. I make this post largely to encourage you to keep speaking up about the pain of the UI, since many of us certainly are internally.

Re: Microsoft Shares Soar to Record on Earnings Boost From Cloud

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Post by cma »

NetStrikeForce wrote: post #121
cma wrote: post #119

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One Note runs on Mac.

I honestly haven't tried it on Mac. It also runs on Android and iOS which is great. I'm in the market for a cheap-ish ultraportable with good battery and I'm considering a second hand Air or MacBook. When it comes to the OS, why would I go back to macOS? (Note that I would go back if I've found a cheap enough Air ;))

I'm not saying you ncessarily should. Windows has gotten better, but still has some infuriating stuff for development, like the 260 character path-length limit. Mac has more native Unix stuff, if you don't care about that there really aren't huge differences in experience anymore.
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