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Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by zelos »

duderific wrote: post #65
SystemOut wrote: post #50

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I can't comment on Facebook but at Google I see plenty of people in their mid 30s and beyond. I joined in my early 40s. Yeah, we hire a lot of new grads / younger folks (I interview a lot of new grads) but I haven't noticed any overt ageism in the groups I've been in. Plus, the people making the hire decision don't see the candidate anyways. You should/would most likely get called out by the hiring groups if you adde…

Well, that's a huge company with many different types of engineers, and in business a long time (relatively). I would say the ageism is more likely at small startups that happen to have mostly young (in their 20s) engineers.

That's likely to be self-selecting, isn't it? I know as a 37 year old engineer with 2 kids I value stability and a reliable salary over excitement/'changing the world'/foosball tables etc.

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by rsp1984 »

alpeb wrote: post #78
rsp1984 wrote: post #32

spent an hour putting up a Google form and static site on a cheap Digital Ocean instance. Now I feel like the Old Geek (I'm 32): What's the deal with Digital Ocean? If the website is static and receives content by manual copy-pasting from a Google sheet (as outlined in the article), why bother with Droplets and Storage and all the other configuration? Why is good old web hosting (the kind where you just upload your h…

Good old web hosting is not good at all. Please please never ever use shared web hosting for anything. As soon as your site gets a little bit popular you're almost guaranteed it's gonna get hacked.

Thanks. Can you explain why that is and why DO is more secure?

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by nibnib »

gggggggg wrote: post #83
wavee wrote: post #76

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I don't think this should exist

I have to ask why? I have a team of male devs, and for my last hire really wanted a female for a different perspective and help balance the team, however only received 1 not ideal female application. At the end of the day, oldgeeks mean you are discriminating (filtering out the young), why should it not work on gender also? Its all just different levels of discrimination.

> Its all just different levels of discrimination.

Aren't some of those levels enforced legally?

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by BigJono »

Annatar wrote: post #118
LnxPrgr3 wrote: post #106

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So? You're getting together to build things for money, not pounding back beers on the front porch and ranting about politics.

I think what the poster meant is that the twenty-somethings will just want to hack things up on the quick in Python or Rust while the old guy says whoa, let's sit down and write a specification first, and think about how we could architect this thing, and let's make OS packages out of all the components.

I don't know that there's anything quick about Rust. I'd probably be more inclined to use it for the second kind of project you're talking about than the first.

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by happy-go-lucky »

On one hand, I'm getting older. On the other, my skills are getting better. The younger people I work with can't keep pace with me. And, my employers aren't unaware of the fact that it indeed is a zero-sum game, so my age (early 40ies) has never been an issue so far. I believe there're and will be many employers who look at nothing but what you bring to the table. As a businessman, you wouldn't be foolish enough to hire only noobs.

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by simonswords82 »

b212 wrote: post #135

Can you do another good deed and require your posters to include salary range in their job ads? It's the norm in the UK and we successfully forced this in Poland (though posters almost NEVER post salaries here). How? The companies need IT staff so much that almost all IT job boards (at least the most popular ones - like FB groups or https://nofluffjobs.com ) started requiring the salary range. I think your idea is pr…

I haven't applied for a job in over a decade but when I have a peruse of job listing websites in the US of A I'm always amazed when the only salary information is "extremely competitive" and "excellent benefits". I've heard people argue that a reputable company will pay market rates and that's all you need to know - but I totally disagree.

If I ever found myself back on the job market (unlikely, so perhaps I'll change my tune if it happened) I wouldn't ever apply for a job that didn't post a salary.

As the previous poster pointed out - in the UK the vast majority of jobs are posted with a salary. All the way up to C-level positions. I don't know about you, but the main reason I work is to get paid! So if a company isn't upfront about this primary benefit, I'm not going to engage with them.

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by _joel »

billmalarky wrote: post #45
BillinghamJ wrote: post #33

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Digital Ocean is just a simple VPS provider - I wouldn't even call it cloud. The usual cPanel PHP 5.4 shared hosting is consistently unreliable, insecure and a generally overall bad idea. Who would you actually even trust to run it?

Eh, DO is cloud. The instances are virtual and can be resized dynamically.

Not sure I follow that ontology as that doesn't necessarily make something a cloud. API's to interact with the ecosystem make it more like a cloud. Whilst I understand DO have API's, just saying the machine can be dynamically resized doesn't justify the cloud tag. Cloud doesn't need to be virtual, either.

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by vanderreeah »

pjlegato wrote: post #72

Great, I love that this worked out! What's the purpose of backfilling jobs from StackOverflow -- is it just to make the site look less like a ghost town? Aren't those not necessarily old-geek friendly jobs?

I would like to know this too - how do you ensure you only pull old-geek-appropriate jobs from SO?

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by gkya »

mgkimsal wrote: post #28

I wish folks like Bray had championed this cause 20 years ago. It may not have done much, but... it feels a bit weird to hear old people complain about discriminatory impact. I can't say he was a contributing factor to the ongoing 'youth culture', but... it wasn't hard to see this coming. My situation may be somewhat unique, in that I've had grey hair since I was 18. Not a HUGE amount at 18, but... people noticed. By…

I guess that's what happens when kids do enterprise: they think of office as an high school party, not as a place to get things done and cultivate a product.

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by spurgu »

skrebbel wrote: post #123
gregsadetsky wrote: post #3

Congrats! Small note, none of the listings appear when using uBlock Origin [ https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpa... ], a popular ad blocker. It seems related to your /js/ads-controller.js file (it gets blocked because of the "/js/ads-" portion in the path). I would suggest fixing that (and preferably minimizing your JS into one bundle).

Ad blockers truly are the new virus scanners. They monitor everything that goes into and out of your computer and randomly break stuff just for kicks. And if that happens, it's somehow the fault of the software provider and not the ad blocker vendor. You can't test against ad blockers (or virus scanners) because the lists keep changing, so you end up applying ridiculous alchemy like not calling your API endpoints "/a…

I don't use any ad blockers, instead I only use Ghostery, which seems to work in a lot more sane way.
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