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Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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What evidence do we have that he has matured? It's not a matter of being an immature college kid anymore. In many respects he has a financial incentive to abuse people's privacy now.

I think it's fair to assume that going from a 19-year-old college kid to the CEO of a giant corporation involves maturing quite a bit.

I'm not sure what you're basing this assumption on?

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Considering the backlash against Slack [0], it’ll be interesting to see if Messenger’s model of more “atomic” conversations will create less interruptions. Slack (much like IRC) really contributes to an expectation of continuous conversation throughout the day/night (although not all people deal with it that way). In comparison, Messenger (and other chat apps like WhatsApp, iMessage, etc.) seem to be more designed to…

Bad idea. Consider how much time people/employees waste on Facebook every day. What company would encourage their users to login to Facebook during work hours? The notifications will send them to the news feed, which becomes a black hole the moment one starts scrolling down the page

    Facebook
    This massive social network deserves a mention on its own. 
    This makes up 7% of the websites accessed at work and is a
    major contributor to all the wasted time in the workplace.
https://biz30.timedoctor.com/infograph-wasted-time/

    1. Social media sites. Not surprisingly, visiting social 
    media sites is the black hole of workplace productivity. 
    Facebook is the top social destination, with 41 percent of
    survey respondents logging in from work every day. Facebook
    is not the only culprit however; LinkedIn, Google+, Twitter
    and more recently Pinterest all claim their share of 
    work-hour traffic.
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/small-business/openforum/...

I wouldn't work at a company that used Facebook as an internal communication tool, because it would encourage massive time wasting.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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This is called: despair. Lost of monthly active users, Lost of daily engagement. I bet it'll fail, although everybody automatically think that it Will suceed.

> despair

Huh? FB has the expertise in connecting people to each other and information. In hindsight, it looks like an obvious next step.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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This is what I see groups for. Chat for small groups, Facebook groups for larger groups and long-form posts that require more in-depth discussion. This is what we do internally at Facebook and it works pretty well.

We didn't find the response time good enough compared to chat rooms and notifications were vague. Group chats being limited to 50 people was limiting for many use cases and there was no discoverability for people find chat groups since they were all private. Inviting people into group chats didn't work as well and I think there was a group chat history problem with new joiners. I'm also not quite sure if general file…

>TBH I think google is probably slacks biggest possible competitor. Google makes a pretty good set of business apps with gmail, calendar, contacts, docs, slides, spreadsheets, google drive, small group chats & video. A lot of big corps already use them. They just need to add corporate slack-style chatrooms and forums (not email lists/ groups) and they will probably take a chunk out of slack & co quickly.

Agree. I keep wondering when Google will release this Slack like chat app. We already use the other Google tools, and even Slack shells out to Hangouts for video.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Trump matured too. He doesn't really still want to sexually assault women. He's changed. Edit: The parent of my comment has completely morphed his original comment into what it is now.

I didn't edit my comment. At all. I'm not sure why you're accusing me of editing my comment.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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https://workplace.fb.com/trust Sure. Also: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks Just keep remembering that as well, please.

I just want to give a shoutout to the subreddit "Stallman was right." [0] Because if there's one thing that Stallman has consistently predicted, it's that if you give your private data to a firm, they will absolutely use it however they want. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/StallmanWasRight

He also predicted that the stuff that grows on your feet is really tasty. The jury is still out on that though.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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https://workplace.fb.com/trust Sure. Also: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks Just keep remembering that as well, please.

The simple solution to anyone concerned about this is to just stop using Facebook. I've done so and it turned out to be a great decision. Contrary to the belief that you'll be "left out," people can and do get in touch with you for the important things. SMS, email, phone, snapchat, etc all work really well today, and you can get your social news fix from reddit, HN, and elsewhere if you need it. I've gotten measurabl…

I went through the relatively laborious process of unfollowing every individual and group and now just use it to learn details of events, for other apps which require an account, and to prevent anyone from impersonating me by creating an account in my name (Although I'm not particularly worried about that one.).

I also deleted pretty much all personal details and locked down privacy and removed all posts, images, and tags.

You're absolutely right, it's a pleasure not to deal with that terrible newsfeed filled with so much misinformation and bad memes. I go on twitter a bit more but there you can curate a sweet list of incredible people in any field to follow.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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"They let you do it" is not consent, it's the absence of fighting back. A woman does not have to physically fight her attacker for it to be assault. Consider the phrasing "they let you do it if you hold a gun to their head".

Apparently you have difficulty reasoning objectively about this issue. Let's agree to disagree and move on with life. For you it's sexual assault because you imagine him attacking women without any warning while I on the other hand have no reason to believe that he isn't escalating sexually in a normal way, leaving room for women to say no or move a step back to signal a no. Edit: When I think about it then I must be…

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Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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https://workplace.fb.com/trust Sure. Also: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks Just keep remembering that as well, please.

Mark Zuckerberg said those things when he was 19 over a decade ago. He's now a father, the CEO of a global company with over 12,000 employees and one of the richest people in the world. Maybe he has matured since then?

That's usually a great defense if you're not talking about a person whose schemes only grew over time in both privacy violations and business gains. This is also the same guy who spends lots of time convincing users privacy doesn't matter and he should know everything about them while buying up homes all around his for his privacy.

He's definitely still playing the "if you need info just ask" cuz they're "dumb fucks" that "trust me" game. Just worth billions with his company making as much on the same game on a worldwide scale.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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https://workplace.fb.com/trust Sure. Also: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks Just keep remembering that as well, please.

Really, Pmlnr? Should we hold you accountable for everything you've said 10 years ago about your friends when they were not there, your spouse, your coworkers, everyone else. People change and the guy was a teenager at the time.
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