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Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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That's true, but the point that many made (and is correct) is that many forms of content cannot be advertised upon under the new policy. In fact, depending upon how YouTube interprets the policy, they can probably block monetization on any video they want, and still claim to be merely enforcing the policy. Finally, it's quite unlikely that this policy will be implemented fairly. If you want evidence, merely know that…

That always amazes me how pop music passes it. Search for rap song Coco. It's about being love with cocaine and violence and it shows me Kia car ads with families before the video. And some semi amateur authors who TALKED about true crime events were banned from the YouTube adsense partnership.

I don't see that as inconsistent. The term is 'advertiser friendly'. Plenty of advertisers are happy to be associated with popular artists because their popularity gives the advertiser cover. Equally, they might not want to be associated with a small-time true crime channel.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Try youtube-dl (before the international copyright police C&D it). I'm sure there's an app wrapper that can handle intents (NewPipe? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12591466 ), and then you can open the videos in the VLC app. The owners of YouTube do not have it in their best interest to provide you with flexible, no-nonsense tools.

`youtube-dl` is a national treasure. No other tool (except maybe MPV) has made it's way into my day to day usage in years.

mpv is the gold standard in video players. I use both constantly.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Try NewPipe, it's an open source YouTube downloader and background player for Android: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.schabi.newpi...

NewPipe is what I use exclusively now for YouTube (my phone is currently GApps-free). Works great.

You might also like WebTube if you're looking for a good way to search and browse YT as well.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Hopefully this will actually work in all countries; I'd love to save videos for offline viewing while I have a wifi connection and watch them later when I don't. But that would compete with "YouTube Red". For that matter, since an offline video eliminates the buffering problem, I'd love to have the "playback speed" feature in the mobile app. The web version of YouTube supports changing the playback speed to 1.25x, 1.…

Try NewPipe, it's an open source YouTube downloader and background player for Android: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.schabi.newpi...

I just tried NewPipe. However, after downloading a video, you can no longer play it directly in NewPipe (with NewPipe's ability to play in the background), only in an external player.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Try youtube-dl (before the international copyright police C&D it). I'm sure there's an app wrapper that can handle intents (NewPipe? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12591466 ), and then you can open the videos in the VLC app. The owners of YouTube do not have it in their best interest to provide you with flexible, no-nonsense tools.

Wow, cheers for that. I was looking for a youtube video downloader a week or two back, but was really struggling to find one that wasn't spamware.

I just like pwnyoutube.com, honestly.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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> Inbox, gmail, android mail (though this got deprecated) Don't forget the cleanest, best-performing one: the classic "Basic HTML" interface. Which manages to be much faster for most operations than Inbox or the AJAXified normal version despited having to reload the whole page.

You just have to love that classic approach to web development, right? JavaScript is great for improving the user experience, but it's often vastly overused and just makes me scream for simpler times such as the classic web app.

I'm increasingly convinced that much better solutions to most of the problems Javascript and AJAX solve ("solve") would have been better frames and improved HTML forms.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Do you have any stats on youtube usage? Personally I don't use the offline feature very much.

I'm wondering if that's because of where you live? In the US at least, if your not in a top 10 city, chances are your data connection is terrible.

Of course it depends on where you live. Even in europe you'll find lots of underserved areas once you'll leave the cities. No provider is interested in building the network in these regions.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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I suspect the problem is big media rather than Google.

Somehow Apple and some other companies manage to handle that way better, including offline downloads for content and the ability to give them my EUR. Google on the other hand refuses to even show us Podcasts category on Play music. Podcasts.

There's a podcasts section in the Google Music Android app; what are you referring to?

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Grr... Is google seeking praise for slightly loosening the shackles? This "YouTube Go" MIGHT be a media player. It MIGHT operate on files. It MIGHT be possible to share a video via some mechanism other than bluetooth. The other day I was trying to convince to a user that she should want to own her content, rather than rent it... when I suddenly realized that he doesn't know what a file is. Moreover, he doesn't realiz…

Owning is just so much less convenient than renting access. I vastly prefer the experience of using Spotify and Netflix to the experience of maintaining my own music and media collections.

I understand that people have different priorities, but as others already mentioned licensing deals end and you might find yourself without access to countless favorite albums at some point, despite having paid Spotify & Co. for years. And that's not even discussing the huge amount of obscure, leftfield music and rare stuff that won't be available on any streaming platform, ever. For me, as a music enthusiast and collector, the selection on streaming platforms is way too limited. The same applies to films and shows - there the situation is even worse. Netflix selection is very, very poor and of course they know it, which explains the heavy focus on original and exclusive content.
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