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The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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Post by deadbunny »

jrowley wrote: post #76
sigmar wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>why is that any different than the OS influencing what gets sent to the 3.5mm jack? Their issue seems to be that it is not analog. The lightening port and bluetooth connection are two-way data connections, and the phone will be able to identify what is attached (rather than just outputing an analog signal). Here's the quotes that make that clear- > But intentionally or not, by removing the analog port, Apple is givi…

Yeah, I'm imagining some scenario where say Spotify partners with Bose, and if you plug in Bose headphones then you get higher quality audio than you can get elsewhere. Or say tidal (Jay Z's streaming service) says you can only listen to some songs via Kanye's new headphones.

Enter piracy.

Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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Post by sigmar »

azinman2 wrote: post #117
exabrial wrote: post #106

Other people getting screwed: Custom IEM wearers. I had a $300 set of Alclair Audio IEMs made so I can use an in-ear audio system on stage while making live music. These use impressions that an audiologist takes of your ear canals for an _exact_ fit that completely seals your ear. There's not a snow-balls chance in hell I would have these be wireless, or a proprietary standard: 1) Latency. Anything over 2ms is not ac…

So use the dongle?

The dongle: probably has a poor quality DAC, gets lost easily, and prevents the phone from being charged or tethered to a computer.

Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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Post by jakebasile »

snerbles wrote: post #135
wfo wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple has been very good at predicting (or perhaps directly causing) the demise of certain technologies: the disk drive, the CD drive, the ethernet port. They removed them much to the chagrin of many a loyal customer, and a few years later they nearly ceased to exist across the entire industry (we're still waiting on the ethernet port to go away but give it time). How many times will it take you forgetting your dongl…

> we're still waiting on the ethernet port to go away but give it time From some consumer devices, sure. It's not going anywhere in commercial and industrial applications, where wireless networking is often verboten.

Nor for gaming. Wireless doesn't compare to wired for low latency, high bandwidth, reliable connections.

Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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Post by gambiting »

sigmar wrote: post #152
azinman2 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So use the dongle?

The dongle: probably has a poor quality DAC, gets lost easily, and prevents the phone from being charged or tethered to a computer.

I imagine it doesn't have any DAC. The DAC is still inside the phone, just like on previous iphone, the dongle is just a physical adapter to the 3.5mm standard.

Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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Post by CarVac »

sigmar wrote: post #152
azinman2 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So use the dongle?

The dongle: probably has a poor quality DAC, gets lost easily, and prevents the phone from being charged or tethered to a computer.

Does it actually have a DAC, or does it just provide a physical interface to one of the Lightning pins which gets connected to a DAC inside the phone?

Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

snerbles wrote: post #120
azinman2 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So use the dongle?

Does the dongle add latency?

Unlikely; the audio had to be converted from digital to analog on the phone previously so now that's being moved to a dongle so it's still the same process (roughly). If it does add latency I would bet it's very unnoticeable (like sub milliseconds when compared to the built-in solution).

Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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Post by stonogo »

mbrd wrote: post #144
cmdrfred wrote: post #130

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An Android phone costs less than the dongle.

I know you're joking, and I'm not agreeing with the headphone jack decision, but the dongle is $9. http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMX62AM/A/lightning-to-35-...

I have four android phones. None of them cost me a dime. They all have headphone jacks.

Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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Post by usaphp »

electic wrote: post #41

The real issue here is this might be anti-competitive, and go as far as being an anti-trust issue. Apple can now limit who makes headphones for the iPhone and the ones that are "allowed" could end up seeing their headphones far more expensive than the Apple and Beats brands. This is all because 3rd party brands will have to pay licensing fees to Apple to use the port. So we could end up seeing headphones that are 20%…

You don't need a license from Apple to make Bluetooth headphones or regular headphones and people will use a connector they already have from Apple. You don't want to use lightning headphones? Use Bluetooth or keep using your existing headphones with the converter that you got with a phone. I think people here are making a bigger deal than it really is.

Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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Post by Flow »

mxfh wrote: post #72
sigmar wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>why is that any different than the OS influencing what gets sent to the 3.5mm jack? Their issue seems to be that it is not analog. The lightening port and bluetooth connection are two-way data connections, and the phone will be able to identify what is attached (rather than just outputing an analog signal). Here's the quotes that make that clear- > But intentionally or not, by removing the analog port, Apple is givi…

So exclusive releases for specific hardware IDs are feasible. A not so far fetched Scenario extending on the exclusive iTunes release practice: Popular new Artist - New Album: Listen before everyone else exclusively on beats

Hasn't Apple for a decade fought against DRM the music companies insists on?
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