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Re: iPhone 7

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Post by enraged_camel »

SurrealSoul wrote: post #25

Honestly if you had an iPhone 6 why would you upgrade? Better battery life is cool, and it being waterproof is novel. However, its basically the same phone for the end consumer.

Water-resistant, not waterproof.

That said, the new home button sounds very interesting (I say that both as a developer and end-user), and the new camera will be a very welcome addition. And battery life improvement on top that? Perfect.

It is an iterative improvement for sure, but I don't see why that's a bad thing.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by _ph_ »

csours wrote: post #57
usaphp wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward" Most of my friends are using bluetooth headphones nowadays.

I've tried a number of bluetooth headphones, none of them have had the sound quality of wired. Songs would skip, quality was not great. Are there bluetooth headphones that don't skip nowadays?

Yes. I am extremely happy with the beats solo 2 wireless. No surprise, that they are working well with an iPhone. As they support AAC over bluetooth, they offer quality audio - bluetooth headphones which don't do indeed sound bad on IOS devices.

Re: iPhone 7

#153

Post by niftich »

zanny wrote: post #75
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought they might replace the headphone jack with a USB-C connector. Then they could do the same thing on the MacBook and it'd have two USB-C ports. But instead they chose Lightning, so now we have iPhone headphones and Android headphones. Why did it have to be this way?

> Why did it have to be this way? We could have a world where Vulkan was the one stop shop graphics API anywhere. Instead, we are in this situation where everything but Apple products supports / will support it. Why did it have to be this way?

Metal was done [1] even before the Khronos Group issued a call to develop a next-gen low-overhead API [2] which became Vulkan. It helped that AMD basically donated Mantle so they were able to turn around in a year. Apple understandably was in no appetite to use DX12, and then-AMD-specific Mantle could not be construed as any more than a tech demo and/or an attempt to eke out more performance from their cards.

[1] http://www.anandtech.com/show/8116/some-thoughts-on-apples-m...

[2] (slide 20) https://www.khronos.org/assets/uploads/developers/library/20...

Re: iPhone 7

#154

Post by devonkim »

k2xl wrote: post #17

Honest question - Aren't IPhones already pretty water resistant? Unless getting dunked in water, I haven't heard of anyone having any issues with water damaging their IPhone.

I've heard of people living in really high humidity areas activating the water sensors in their phones and being refused warranty replacements.

Re: iPhone 7

#155

Post by BurningFrog »

acomjean wrote: post #42
slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

I expect iPads will still have the headphone jack. It doesn't have the space issues of the phone.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by strictnein »

tarcon wrote: post #114
Esau wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me, the biggest problem with this move is that you can't charge the device and listen to music with corded headphones at the same time. Unless there is some option I am unaware of. In any case, I just decided to replace my iPhone 5 with an iPhone 6s, which I should be able to find on sale.

The iPhone Lightning Dock offers a traditional headphone port for that use case.

A $40-$50 (2/5 stars on Apple.com) adapter to cover that use case. A $10-$20(?) dongle to cover the using normal headphone use case. Pass.

Re: iPhone 7

#158

Post by brian-armstrong »

I'm curious if this spells the end for the headphone jack in the industry. Now that's gone from the iPhone, should we expect other phones to drop it? What about tablets and laptops?

Re: iPhone 7

#159

Post by slantedview »

sodafountan wrote: post #70
strictnein wrote: post #23

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And to say it was about "Courage". No, we all understand that it's a way for them to make more money selling their horrible headphones and licensing lightning to headphone makers.

While from a financial standpoint this would make sense, most of the guys making the executive decisions at Apple are design focused and oriented. Dropping the headphone jack differentiates Apple even more from its competition, makes the phone sleeker, helps with water proofing, makes the wireless headphones more appealing (which not only act as headphones but also communication devices). This was much more than just…

It's only smart on one hand (for the reasons you mention). On the other hand users will be pissed off at losing the convenience (yes, convenience) of plug and play headphones, along with the many other reasons why wired > wireless.

It may be a smart move in the end, but it's not obviously so at this point.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by hsod »

k2xl wrote: post #17

Honest question - Aren't IPhones already pretty water resistant? Unless getting dunked in water, I haven't heard of anyone having any issues with water damaging their IPhone.

Seems like the new thing is if you drop it in the pool/bathtub/toilet (and quickly retrieve it) you should be fine
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