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“There is no longer enough mail to sustain six days of delivery.”

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Re: “There is no longer enough mail to sustain six days of delivery.”

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In the long run I don't see that as a problem. People should pay a premium if their lifestyle takes up more resources like that.

You are not subsidizing their ability to receive mail from you. You are paying for your ability to send mail to them . It's the same rationale as the universal service fund for phones. A network like the phone or mail network reaches it's full potential only when it connects everybody .

We still don't have a government phone monopoly.

Re: “There is no longer enough mail to sustain six days of delivery.”

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post #19

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Not really, I see mail as a temporary problem. If Netflix Streaming contained all the top titles, I would use that almost exclusively. There really would be no reason for mail, it's slow and inefficient.

I'm about to move from a place with 18Mbit down to a place with 2Mbit down. I expect my use of Netflix Watch It Now to drastically decline. Mail is only a temporary problem if you define "temporary" as "ten to twenty years". There are plenty of people still stuck on dial-up. Nobody is going to run fiber ten miles outside of a city of 20,000 people just for me, and apparently the movie studios don't trust me enough to…

Netflix's streaming is reasonably efficient; one forum user mentions that HD streaming consumes 3.8 Mb/s (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1115352), which is comparable to what I see on my Tomato bandwidth graphs (~4.0 Mb/s). I have a coworker that lives out in the middle of nowhere. He gets ~1 Mb/s and lives on Netflix streaming.

So you're probably not doomed. That being said, I am against any reduction of USPS service and in favor of caching Netflix Watch It Now movies, as you have mentioned.

Re: “There is no longer enough mail to sustain six days of delivery.”

#153

I saw the chairman of their board speak not long ago, and it turns out the biggest problem is that USPS can't fire any of their union employees, who consistently get awarded UPS salaries + 15-20% in arbitration.

This is a huge problem, and we need to shift the power balance away from unions. The original purpose of unions was to compensate for the imbalance of power. I don't have a problem to the extent that they merely divert executive pay down to the workers, but where they significantly increase the cost of doing business, unions are economically inefficient. In Canada, we have a huge union called CUPE. They support an in…

I'm not sure I'm really disagreeing with you, but I feel fairly confident that without unions, postal workers would not make enough money to live in many communities they serve, at least here in the sf bay area. Same goes for school teachers and peace officers. How valuable it is that these worker actually live in the same cities where they work is open for debate, of course.

Re: “There is no longer enough mail to sustain six days of delivery.”

#154
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Why Saturday? They should cut out a day in the middle of the week. This way, you'll have to wait up to two days longer for a given item. It's better to distribute that wait time.

Most businesses want delivery (and pickup) during working days.

Every place I've ever worked had people working on Saturdays. I'm sure there are statistics on this somewhere, though.

Re: “There is no longer enough mail to sustain six days of delivery.”

#155

Privatize the system and outsource it to UPS/FedEX,etc. (I know easier said than done). If I ever need to send snail mail, I just send it via those guys.

The problem is the mandatory requirements for full service in unprofitable areas. The USPS literally has a plane that goes weekly to the most isolated part of Idaho: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/30/us/30idaho.html There's no way a private contractor could/would do that.

Isn't that a bit like driving a nail with a tactical nuke?

If you want a government program to deliver mail to obscure locations at a loss, create a program to do that. There's no reason for the government to assume responsibility for delivering all mail, and especially no reason for it to make it illegal for others to deliver mail!

And especially, especially no reason to protect the program from being cut as mail slowly becomes obsolete.

Must government insist on solving 100% of the problem when it doesn't trust the free market to handle that 0.5% case?

Re: “There is no longer enough mail to sustain six days of delivery.”

#156
post #44

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I think the current solution for snail mail spam is the optimal one. Consider the two possibilities: (1) the government raises taxes in order to increase the USPS's ability to handle spam or (2) the USPS offloads the majority of the filtering process to the recipients (the current solution). On days I receive spam in the mail, I waste approximately one second when I have to pause to throw it away. If the USPS were to…

I've outsourced my snail mail spam handling to a mail forwarding service called St. Brendan's Isle (there are others like Paperless Mail). They shred and recycle junk mail for me automatically. I never even see it. I tried going through the process of unsubscribing and opting out of everything I could find, and while it slowed for a few weeks, it eventually picked up again (just like email spam, when you make use of…

How can you be sure they're only shredding junk?

Re: “There is no longer enough mail to sustain six days of delivery.”

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post #155

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The problem is the mandatory requirements for full service in unprofitable areas. The USPS literally has a plane that goes weekly to the most isolated part of Idaho: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/30/us/30idaho.html There's no way a private contractor could/would do that.

Isn't that a bit like driving a nail with a tactical nuke? If you want a government program to deliver mail to obscure locations at a loss, create a program to do that . There's no reason for the government to assume responsibility for delivering all mail, and especially no reason for it to make it illegal for others to deliver mail! And especially, especially no reason to protect the program from being cut as mail s…

It would be more expensive, not less. The post office currently operates as efficiently as it does because of the economies of scale, and as such is close to break even.

It's not like the free market doesn't compete. UPS and FedEx are still around, for example, just not on bulk mail and first class. It also connects with other postal services in other countries, and reciprocity agreements are governed by treaties, making a true free market solution incongruous with the rest of the world.

PS -- the post office is the second oldest institution in the US, and government-controlled postal services go back to (at least) Darius I in Persia. There's more precedent for a privatized military.

Re: “There is no longer enough mail to sustain six days of delivery.”

#158
post #83

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15% price increase (39 to 44 cents) in 4 years is not unnoticed "in volume" and easily outstrips inflation.

You can cherry-pick intervals where stamp prices outstripped inflation, and I can cherry-pick intervals where stamp prices stayed well below inflation. A 12.8% increase (not sure how you came up with 15%) over a period where inflation was only around 7.8% (based on month-to-month consumer price index report) sounds pretty bad, but you seem to have missed the previous four years, where inflation was 10.1% and the pric…

I wasn't cherry-picking - I used the interval cited in the parent of my reply.

Why go back only 4 years more - postal rates were 2 cents in July 19 and 44 cents in May 2009 - a 2200% increase. However, inflation was only 1129%.

So who is cherry picking?

Historical Postal Rates: http://www.usps.com/postalhistory/_pdf/DomesticLetterRates18...

Inflation Calculator: http://inflationdata.com/Inflation/Inflation_Calculators/Inf...

Re: “There is no longer enough mail to sustain six days of delivery.”

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I don't think anyone is saying they don't make money off of spam, just that they shouldn't be encouraging it. If spammers had to pay full price perhaps we'd see less of it, or if not then the postal service would make more money.

If there were no bulk-mail discount, though, there'd be no way to get them to follow the USPS's constraints. The discount is what gets them to presort their mail, put bar codes on it, etc.

Why not the stick, instead of the carrot? Make any bulk mailer that doesn't follow the rules guilty of abusing federal communications channels, similar to how we prosecute people who are misusing radio spectrum today.

We make things corporations do illegal all the time; it doesn't hurt corporate feelings, unlike restricting the rights of individuals. (And individuals, as far as I know, don't bulk-mail.) What would be the downside to this?

Re: “There is no longer enough mail to sustain six days of delivery.”

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I'm pretty sure they just pay the Post Office to put ads in every PO Box there.

Would there not have been an address on the mail?

I assume there's a list of valid PO boxes provided, much the way addresses are taken off of a list somewhere, addressed to "Current Resident", and delivered that way though the mail was not only obviously mass spam but not even addressed specifically to the resident.
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