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What Marissa Mayer Brought to Yahoo That Can’t Be Bought or Sold

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Re: What Marissa Mayer Brought to Yahoo That Can’t Be Bought or Sold

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Post by arenaninja »

nsxwolf wrote: post #122
outworlder wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also: she used to use pine(1) to read her emails. That increased her stature in my eyes, and those of quite a few other engineers. Ok, now that is amazing. That speaks more about her culture and background than a hundred random actions.

Oh wow! She used pine! Freakin' pine! She sent the company down the tubes, but... holy shit did she ever read her emails in a terminal! Also: Way to dogfood Yahoo Mail. Shows how much faith you have in your own products - as CEO no less.

I mean, I get your point on pine, but I think the jury is still out on whether she was the cause for Yahoo's demise. I think the media definitely overhyped her, but Yahoo was in pretty dire straits when she took over in 2012

Re: What Marissa Mayer Brought to Yahoo That Can’t Be Bought or Sold

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Post by freyir »

smhost wrote: post #139
freyir wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what you're "correcting" in the original post. The only difference I see is that the author said Marissa removed the turnstiles after reading an email complaint, and you say she removed the turnstiles after looking at them.

The framing is different. In one frame she appears to care about the QoL of her employees, in the other she doesn't necessary care about that so much as she cares about efficiency and her personal comfort. http://i.imgur.com/LRGZRTO.jpg

It's an interpretation based on speculation, not a correction.

She might have looked at the turnstile and thought, "This is probably annoying to the other employees, so it has to go." We don't know, and 1024core doesn't know.

Or maybe the OP was correct, and an email complaint really did contribute to the decision. Without further evidence, or unless 1024core is actually Marissa Meyer, we simply don't know.

Re: What Marissa Mayer Brought to Yahoo That Can’t Be Bought or Sold

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Post by jimwalsh »

1024core wrote: post #37

Heh, I remember Jelena from discussion on devel-random. I would like to correct (mildly) a couple of anecdotes in her article, because I was there and closer. > A friend relayed this story: The Sunnyvale campus had a building with redundant turnstiles, which required a badge scan seconds after employees had scanned their badges to open the main doors. People complained about it when the building was remodeled years b…

She didn't want barriers to coming into work because she was about to eliminate the work from home program.

Re: What Marissa Mayer Brought to Yahoo That Can’t Be Bought or Sold

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Post by pfarnsworth »

1024core wrote: post #86
Lagged2Death wrote: post #38

I'm no biz-geek, I probably can't name a dozen CEOs. But for years, MM's name was called put in every critical mainstream headline about Yahoo, of which there were many. I do not believe that's an accident. I do not believe a man would have been treated the same way.

> I do not believe a man would have been treated the same way. This. Larry Ellison fucks around on a sailboat. Larry is busy with "X" for years. And no one bats an eye.

He's not the CEO of Oracle anymore. He's the executive chairman only.

Re: What Marissa Mayer Brought to Yahoo That Can’t Be Bought or Sold

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Post by nsxwolf »

arenaninja wrote: post #151
nsxwolf wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh wow! She used pine! Freakin' pine! She sent the company down the tubes, but... holy shit did she ever read her emails in a terminal! Also: Way to dogfood Yahoo Mail. Shows how much faith you have in your own products - as CEO no less.

I mean, I get your point on pine, but I think the jury is still out on whether she was the cause for Yahoo's demise. I think the media definitely overhyped her, but Yahoo was in pretty dire straits when she took over in 2012

True, but, it seems that much like US presidents, CEOs want all the credit for good results and excuses for the bad ones.

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Post by macintux »

0xmohit wrote: post #97
1024core wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only hardcore masochists use ed(1) ! I think she used pico, but not sure.

pico being the default editor for pine would make a natural choice. I wonder how can someone who prefers console-based email clients ignore mutt.

nmh ftw!

Re: What Marissa Mayer Brought to Yahoo That Can’t Be Bought or Sold

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Post by RileyKyeden »

Practicality wrote: post #16
bitwize wrote: post #13

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Which itself has silly variants, like Noogler gor new employees or Doogler for dogs. (Google is, explicitly, a dog company. Dogs are welcome at Google facilities. Cats are officially strongly deprecated.)

Interesting given the number of cat videos this "dog" company distributes. ;)

They're cats. They have to feel they're unwelcome before they want to be there.

Re: What Marissa Mayer Brought to Yahoo That Can’t Be Bought or Sold

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Post by thehashrocket »

1024core wrote: post #91

It makes me angry and sad to see all the sniping about her $200M (or thereabouts) earnings over 4 years. The spotlight has always been on her, and her failings are magnified beyond reason. Is it because she's young woman and pretty? I was at Yahoo from 2004 through 2015. I saw some seriously stupid CEOs. One of them being Terry Semel. He made more than $200M in just one year (and even more, according to rumors). Here…

I think back to AT&T CEO John Walter who was barely at the job 11 months before he was forced out. He made a nice tidy sum of money plus a new house for his efforts.

" Under the terms of his contract, Walter, 50, will receive separation payments totaling about $3.8 million, AT&T said. This is in addition to the $22 million provided to replace salary, pension and bonuses Walter forfeited when he left R.R. Donnelley & Co. last October after nine years as the publishing company's CEO."

article: http://money.cnn.com/1997/07/16/companies/att/ article 2: http://www.nytimes.com/1997/07/17/business/after-9-months-at...

EDIT: added another link.

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