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Re: 23andMe Is Monetizing Your DNA the Way Facebook Monetizes 'Likes'

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Post by bduerst » Mon, Jul 11, 2016, 9:35 PM UTC

colejohnson66 wrote: post #150

bduerst wrote: post #148

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So the logic is that insurance companies intentionally cause accidents for their members, in order to increase premiums and increase their costs? That doesn't make any sense.

No. My point was that insurance company's profit model is making most of their money off people who don't have accidents and spending some of that on people who do. To recoup the loss after an accident, the insurance company will raise your rate. They're spending more on you, so they want some more from you. Causing accidents to increase premiums would be pointless and actually cause them to lose money (premiums are…

Sorry, I was reading in context to tamana's comment above. I know how the industry works, I was thinking that you were trying to explain more on their point, but I see I was wrong. Thanks.

Re: 23andMe Is Monetizing Your DNA the Way Facebook Monetizes 'Likes'

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Post by bduerst » Mon, Jul 11, 2016, 9:39 PM UTC

rickycook wrote: post #100

bduerst wrote: post #76

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I've asked this question before and it is typically answered with nothing more than hypothetical "nightmare" scenarios.

there are plenty of situations that only exist in nightmare scenarios. that doesn't make them any less scary. someone brought up seat belts further up, and it's a decent example. why wear a seat belt? it only protects you in nightmare scenarios

A seat belt protects you from real & practical scenarios, not just nightmare scenarios.

Re: 23andMe Is Monetizing Your DNA the Way Facebook Monetizes 'Likes'

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Post by nommm-nommm » Mon, Jul 11, 2016, 10:29 PM UTC

burfog wrote: post #141

nommm-nommm wrote: post #119

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>Of course we didn't do a second scan, that would be silly... I don't know half of my ancestry, we simply wanted to confirm that I was negative for them Oh god I hope you are not serious. These services are not clinical diagnostic tests and shouldn't be used as such for a thousand different reasons. Genetic counseling is serious business. It should be administered by a trained professional in a medical setting. The r…

"trained professional in a medical setting [...] trained professional." This implies that you oppose testing, because with those expenses it's just not happening. Nobody likes to pay a 4-digit sum to look at a dozen spots on the genome, and then another test and another 4-digit sum to look at a few more (separate office visit of course), and then again...

I don't opposite genetic testing, I am in full support, especially as someone who is a carrier of a very rare genetic disorder. It is serious though it shouldn't be a DIY thing just like MRIs or any other medical tests.

Re: 23andMe Is Monetizing Your DNA the Way Facebook Monetizes 'Likes'

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Post by JulianMorrison » Tue, Jul 12, 2016, 12:56 AM UTC

jomamaxx wrote: post #144

eggie wrote: post #143

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You're forgetting the other point that the poster made, that your DNA is no more yours than your grandparents', or cousins, or any other ancestor or distant relative that shares bits of their genome with you. By the way, we are all related, and virtually everything in you is not unique. There are maybe 50-100 point mutations out of 6 billion that are unique to you. And anyway, what's the point of your genome unless y…

"You're forgetting the other point that the poster made, that your DNA is no more yours than your grandparents', or cousins, or any other ancestor or distant relative that shares bits of their genome with you." No, my DNA is distinct from theirs, and it's 'mine'. :) Those 50-100 points identify me, uniquely.

They identify you and all your clones and twins, who are separate people. Which you may currently have none of, but that might not continue to be so.

Re: 23andMe Is Monetizing Your DNA the Way Facebook Monetizes 'Likes'

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Post by burfog » Wed, Jul 13, 2016, 8:05 AM UTC

nommm-nommm wrote: post #153

burfog wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"trained professional in a medical setting [...] trained professional." This implies that you oppose testing, because with those expenses it's just not happening. Nobody likes to pay a 4-digit sum to look at a dozen spots on the genome, and then another test and another 4-digit sum to look at a few more (separate office visit of course), and then again...

I don't opposite genetic testing, I am in full support, especially as someone who is a carrier of a very rare genetic disorder. It is serious though it shouldn't be a DIY thing just like MRIs or any other medical tests.

I don't think you meant to imply that MRIs are a DIY thing, but that sounds lovely. Do you happen to know if it would be available/affordable anywhere?

It's my body. I've done lots of things already that are theoretically supposed to involve doctors or never be done:

I've done minor surgery with a Leatherman multi-tool knife.

I don't pay a dermatologist to pop my pimples. Really, who does that???

I clean my ears. When Q-tips are unavailable or too weak, I use other tools: paperclip, screw, scissors, screwdriver, pen, pen cap...

Being "serious" does not matter. If it did, we'd have condoms installed by doctors.