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Apple confirms iOS kernel code left unencrypted intentionally

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Re: Apple confirms iOS kernel code left unencrypted intentionally

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Post by NEDM64 »

djrogers wrote: post #128
spiderfarmer wrote: post #80

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Does the same count for the watchOS kernel? I mean, the performance enhancements they claim to have realized have to come from somewhere.

> the performance enhancements they claim to have realized have to come from somewhere Even in the first beta, the performance enhancements are real. Numerous Apple folks, including Craig Federighi, have said that with WatchOS1 and 2 they 'overshot' how conservative they needed to be with RAM and CPU (out of respect for battery life), and with WatchOS 3 they have rebalanced that. Time will tell how much of a hit batt…

This, and they also realized they had leftover RAM.

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Post by nicky0 »

LoSboccacc wrote: post #136
nicky0 wrote: post #100

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Your source for this allegation?

all trace back to this http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/technology/how-tim-cook-be... "Apple had asked the F.B.I. to issue its application for the tool under seal. But the government made it public, prompting Mr. Cook to go into bunker mode to draft a response, according to people privy to the discussions, who spoke on condition of anonymity."

We don't know if he would have agreed.

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Post by matt4077 »

robbiep wrote: post #71
matt4077 wrote: post #65

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It's not easy to decide either way. I recently advised a women's rights organization in a similar matter: they were poised to publish a scathing (and somewhat stupid) indictment of islam with regards to women's rights. It's obviously a minefield, with popular opinion divided almost equally. You have to judge the intensity of emotions it will cause in people, the propensity of people to act on those emotions and the b…

> 'with popular opinion divided almost equally.' that's interesting. This is a factual statement, or is it opinion?

I just tried to look up statistics and the results mostly depend on the wording. "Afraid of islamic radicalization": 53:47, "Islam part of Germany":37:60, "Muslims can be German": 70:30 etc.

Re: Apple confirms iOS kernel code left unencrypted intentionally

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Post by Corrado »

alexandercrohde wrote: post #14
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #2

I suppose this is the only way to definitively stop any three-letter agencies from asking you to backdoor your kernel.

Or perhaps the three-letter-agencies demanded they do such a backdoor (i.e. a deliberate but obscure security hole), so they are open-sourcing it so hackers can find it.

That's an interesting point of view that I hadn't considered before. Apple (or any company) doesn't have infinite eyeballs and can't possibly inspect every nuance to their systems. So, you release it to the world and have them surface any issues. If there are no trade secrets and everyone is honest and reliable, then it is a great way to increase your security footprint. :)

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Post by anonbanker »

headShrinker wrote: post #26

A move like this fits with a more general ideology Apple has been advocating for the last three years. Privacy, security, and ultruism. Tim Cook has put is mark on the company. One of the first things he did was apologize, (for maps) something unheard of in Apple's culture. I haven't drank the cool-aid and Apple has a lot of issues. I do see they however are making attempts at differentiating from the general corpora…

Cook apologizing for Maps was a subtle way of sticking it to Scott Forestall even further.

Tim Cook is an excellent CEO, but Forestall was Steve Jobs 2.0. The company isn't the same without him.

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Post by jpttsn »

dmichulke wrote: post #105
piyush_soni wrote: post #61

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I supported Apple's stand against the FBI, but believing it's purely altruistic would be simplistic and optimistic thinking at best. When safety and security are your perceived selling point, it's the best PR you can have. I'm not entirely sure about the validity of this nytimes article [1], but if we believe it, Tim Cook had asked FBI to submit their request 'in private' - but FBI did it openly, so Tim Cook 'had to'…

Not sure whether it has a name but I believe long-term thinking + egoism are undistinguishable from altruism, maybe they are even the same.

That's a sort of faith that doing nice things will eventually pay for itself. Isn't that a bit naive?

Re: Apple confirms iOS kernel code left unencrypted intentionally

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Post by jpttsn »

Kristine1975 wrote: post #60
LeoPanthera wrote: post #58

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> Then why does Apple avoid paying taxes? Because they're a publicly traded company who act in the best financial interests of their shareholders. They're not breaking any laws. They're playing the game by following the rules as best they can while maximizing their profits. Any for-profit company that does not do so is suicidal. If you think what they do is wrong - campaign to fix the laws they are following.

So they are not altruistic. That was all I was saying with my rhetorical question.

Your unstated assumption is deeply troubling.
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