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Re: Ask HN: Best linux laptop right now?

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The SSD is replaceable and standard-sized for modern computers, so I wouldn't say it is extremely bad. You can get a 512GB one now for $200. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KLTPSKM

How easy it to replace? Can't find any guide online.

Undoing 8 screws or so would expose the whole mainboard with all components. https://www.reddit.com/r/chromeos/comments/3m5wil/dell_chrom...

Re: Ask HN: Best linux laptop right now?

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Oh I wiped Chrome and installed Linux directly on the SSD (upgraded it to 128gb). It works well too, Chromebooks are designed to work well with Linux :) Now mainline Linux kernel support is so good to the point that you don't need to hack on it to get it to work.

which distro do you use? i see KDE in the picture.

I use Kubuntu.

Re: Ask HN: Best linux laptop right now?

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I have a Dell Chromebook 13. Basically it is a Macbook Pro that happens to run Linux really well. I have used Thinkpads X (200, 201, 220) in the past, then switched to Chromebook C720, then this. After you install John Lewis' ROM (basically a Coreboot build), it is an absolute dream, and everything worked out of the box, wifi, bt, 3d acceleration, suspend/resume, audio jack detection, you name it. Trackpad is really…

That does sound very very nice. How's the screen like? Do you see pixels when reading text/code? If my calculations are correct, the Dell Chromebook has 169PPI, while the MBP 13 has a 227 PPI display.

I don't see pixels, but it probably doesn't mean you won't see it. It is a very nice screen, however, there might be bleedings - less or more depending on your luck. My girlfriend has a Macbook Air 11 inches and the Dell screen is another league. It is matte too, so it has different characteristics compared to the Macbook pro, and what is better depends on your taste, but I like matte screens better.

About DPI I would love to have the MBP screen, so I can do the 2x DPI mode, however, ~1.5x scaling for 1920x1080 is not bad at all. KDE scales odd DPIs really well, so I don't have a problem with it generally speaking. After you set the DPI on Control Panel/System settings, everything scales seamlessly. I have yet to find something that makes me frustrated in terms of app scaling.

Re: Ask HN: Best linux laptop right now?

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I have a System76 Gazelle and a 2015 Macbook Pro. In my opinion, the System76 is superior as a development machine. It's faster than the mbp, cost literally half as much, and has a better OS (imho). However, I must admit that I wish the System76 had a better screen.

Re: Ask HN: Best linux laptop right now?

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I know a lot of people are suggesting MacBook pros and airs, which is great if you want both OS X and Linux, but.. apple = $$$. Part of what you pay for is OS X so if you want a Linux machine this is silly. If you don't specifically need Linux just Unix then I can't possibly recommend OS X highly enough. Also Linux distros and Mac hardware plays pretty well together but you WILL run into issues. My personal recurring…

Well said. There is really no need in buying Apple computer only to run Linux. You are wasting money. But I find OS X really enjoyable! Used it for more than ten years, it has quirks, it can be really annoying at the times, but it is the only system that gives you everything in terms of commercial software that is widely used in various industries and UNIX environment.

Re: Ask HN: Best linux laptop right now?

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I have a Dell Chromebook 13. Basically it is a Macbook Pro that happens to run Linux really well. I have used Thinkpads X (200, 201, 220) in the past, then switched to Chromebook C720, then this. After you install John Lewis' ROM (basically a Coreboot build), it is an absolute dream, and everything worked out of the box, wifi, bt, 3d acceleration, suspend/resume, audio jack detection, you name it. Trackpad is really…

I've got an old Samsung 550 chromebook that I've done the same to. It's a highly under-rated dev machine in my opinion. I installed Gallium on mine.

Re: Ask HN: Best linux laptop right now?

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One thing I find difficult about a lot of laptops is popping the case! I always worry I'm going to break it.

It's been a while since I've needed to do so though, but I've really only seen ChromeBooks have regular screws. Is this still common?

Re: Ask HN: Best linux laptop right now?

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I recently bought a gen4 ThinkPad X1 Carbon. Despite a couple of issues first getting started with Linux (I've been using OS X for years aside from running Ubuntu on my web servers) I'm now happily on Fedora 23. There was a kernel bug that I think is being patched atm, requiring booting with intel_pstate=no_hwp but no problems with Fedora other than that. When discussing this on the ThinkPad subreddit a Red Hat emplo…

>> "Linus Torvalds, creator of the Linux kernel, who uses Fedora on all of his computers." Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora_(operating_system) Be interesting to know what hardware Linus use, though given security is a low priorty for him, not sure what this would mean. Personally, I would like to know if the gen4 ThinkPad X1 Carbon (hardware, bios, firmware, drivers, etc) have any know exploits or notab…

I don't think security is a low priority for Torvalds, it's just his philosophy is broader and more nuanced on this issue that it makes him seem anti-security.

I actually don't agree with him entirely, but I understand his philosophy. Hopefully I'm not mischaracterising him, but I believe that in essence his view on security boils down to issues:

1. Security bugs are just a bugs and should be fixed and not treated much more differently than you would any normal, high priority bug.

I believe that's why they don't highlight security flaws in the changelogs. I think it's a mistake myself, but I do understand this position and it's not necessarily wrong. Note that I've not ever seen him say that security is NOT a concern, he just doesn't seem to want to prioritise it above bugs like those that call data corruption or kernel panics.

2. He has a view on trust - you must take care to keep your "network of trust" reliable. He write that:

"What happens is that the way merging is done is the way real security is done. By a network of trust. If you have ever done any security work, and it did not involve the concept of network of trust, then it wasn't a security work, it was masturbation. I don't know what you were doing but trust me, it's the only way you can do security, and it's the only way you can do development. The way I work, I don't trust everybody. in fact I am a very cynical and untrusting person. I think most of you are completely incompetent. The whole point of being distributed is I don't have to trust you, I do not have to give you commit access. But I know that among the multitude of average people, there are some people that just stand out that I trust, because I've been working with them. I only need to trust 5, 10, 15 people. If I have a network of trust that covers those 5, 10, 15 people that are outstanding, and I know they are outstanding, I can pull from them. I do not have to spend a lot of brainpower on the question. When Andrew send me patches, he actually does not use git, it's some kind of defect, but other than that, he is a very solid person. When he asks me to pull, he does it by sending a million patches instead, I just do it. Sometimes I disagree with some of these patches, but at some point, trust means, ... never having to say you're sorry? ... I dunno ... It basically means that you have to accept other people's decisions. And the nice thing about trust is that it does network. That's where the network of trust comes in. I only need to trust a few people that much."

https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/LinusTalk200705Transcr...

Re: Ask HN: Best linux laptop right now?

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Lenovo W520 with Ubuntu Gnome. The performance is great, and I haven't had any major compatibility problems. The touchpad is excellent and works great out of the box. Build quality is superb.

Some issues though:

* battery only lasts around 90 minutes on full settings, and half of that if you're compiling something heavy. This is a used laptop though, so no idea how many battery cycles it had when I got it.

* switching to an external monitor is annoying. Out of the box it doesn't remember the display layout settings (mirror/extend/etc). If I switch off the on-board GPU and use the discrete one, the VGA port is unavailable. Sending sound over HDMI doesn't always work.

* wifi sometimes gets into a weird state where it can't find any networks. Resetting the driver helps though.

* the only available AC adapter weighs a couple of pounds and is huge. Haven't had any luck finding a more reasonably-sized aftermarket one.

* the speakers are too weak even on 100% volume.

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