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Re: Reddit for iOS and Android

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Post by devcpp »

bsimpson wrote: post #124
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #87

In addition to the other problems raised, it's frustrating that while Reddit itself continues to be open source [1] with significant contributions from the open source community [2], neither of these new apps are (and with no signs of that changing). [1] https://github.com/reddit/reddit [2] https://github.com/reddit/reddit/graphs/contributors

Their new website is open-source and updated frequently: https://github.com/reddit/reddit-mobile

Promotion websites and server-side engines are nice (even though we know Reddit Inc runs a slightly modified version), but malicious client-side apps can be significantly more harmful by abusing permissions.

That's why I'm very careful what I install on my phone: unlike Reddit posts, I have virtually no control over what the software does.

Re: Reddit for iOS and Android

#152

Post by nezza-_- »

levemi wrote: post #101
shostack wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Imgur bit is troubling. Even in AlienBlue I've noticed that when an image starts defaulting to the Standard Imgur view, and I click "Optimized", it switches right back to Standard. I'm not sure if that is Imgur intentionally trying to prevent people from not seeing their "Download our app" banners everywhere, or a bug in AB, but it is very annoying. Ultimately, when I see an image or video thumbnail on Reddit, I…

> I'm not sure if that is Imgur intentionally trying to prevent people from not seeing their "Download our app" banners everywhere, or a bug in AB, but it is very annoying. It's a problem with Alien Blue, not imgur. It just needs to enable cookies across webviews.

> It just needs to enable cookies across webviews.

'just' enable something that has an impact on user privacy?

Re: Reddit for iOS and Android

#153

Post by germanier »

girvo wrote: post #148
germanier wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To make this clear: Nobody in Germany requested a takedown of that subreddit. A German agency (BPJM) sent Reddit a letter with a few questions about that subreddit. Reddit then blocked the site for German IPs but it was not requested to do so. The BPJM does not have authority to block foreign websites. They do maintain a (non-public) list of websites deemed harmful to the youth which e.g Google uses to not show certa…

> That's quite far from censoring but rather Reddit censoring itself. While you're completely correct, and this case is exactly that, the end result is the same isn't it?

They can hardly argue legal compliance as a reason, when they go beyond what's legally required of them.

Re: Reddit for iOS and Android

#154

Post by kuschku »

girvo wrote: post #148
germanier wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To make this clear: Nobody in Germany requested a takedown of that subreddit. A German agency (BPJM) sent Reddit a letter with a few questions about that subreddit. Reddit then blocked the site for German IPs but it was not requested to do so. The BPJM does not have authority to block foreign websites. They do maintain a (non-public) list of websites deemed harmful to the youth which e.g Google uses to not show certa…

> That's quite far from censoring but rather Reddit censoring itself. While you're completely correct, and this case is exactly that, the end result is the same isn't it?

Not really, because reddit had a choice not to censor itself. The result would have been that /r/watchpeopledie would be not findable in German Google with safe search on, and that it would be blocked in all schools, and if you install a family blocker software at home.

Re: Reddit for iOS and Android

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Post by kuschku »

tokenizerrr wrote: post #45
Mithaldu wrote: post #42

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That is until they pull a Twitter and kill those clients.

They claim they are committed to supporting that free API[1]. And if they kill it, it would also kill all those reddit bots. There would be a massive outrage since many large subreddits rely on them for advanced automated moderation. There's AutoMod which they've integrated, but it's often not enough. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/4dqxgt/reddi...

Or they could just limit it to 10 IPs per API key. Kills all 3rd party clients, but leaves bots.

Re: Reddit for iOS and Android

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Post by kuschku »

shostack wrote: post #83
minimaxir wrote: post #12

There's a good checklist of app features, per /r/AlienBlue: https://np.reddit.com/r/AlienBlue/comments/4dqajk/new_reddit... The big feature omission is no iPad support , which I am legitimately curious why they would leave that out. If you are looking for a iOS Reddit client, I strongly recommend Antenna, which is amazing on an iPad as well due to Split View.

How are 3rd party Reddit apps on the security front? If I login through Antenna, is there any way to guarantee that they don't have full access to my Reddit identity and credentials? Or is that the risk of going with them?

They all were forced to switch to oauth with reddits latest api changes. Which means you see a very ugly screen for a while during login.

Re: Reddit for iOS and Android

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Post by Aaargh20318 »

morley wrote: post #27
ihuman wrote: post #10

With the purchase of AlienBlue over a year ago, I had high expectations for an official Reddit app. Seeing how hyped Jase (the developer behind AlienBlue) was about this app, I was expecting a less buggy version of AB with more features. Instead, what we got was a reddit app with less features. Here are my main issues with it: 1. No moderator support. With AlienBlue, we could read all of the Mod Mail, and remove post…

This new app got released minutes ago. It's not going to be perfect out of the gate. Give it some time.

If you replace an existing app with a new one the new one better be at least as good and feature-complete as the old one. Remember that you can never take away features once they have been rolled out.

Re: Reddit for iOS and Android

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Post by kuschku »

dang wrote: post #142
ilyanep wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the response! What I meant by "hard-coded" penalty, is there is a list of domains somewhere and "reddit.com" is on it. I was wondering if that was the case, or if these domains were discovered automatically somehow. Based on your description, it sounds like it's the former and then occasionally the penalty is negated automatically?

Yup that's correct.

So thats why so many frontpage articles on HN are blogspam versions of comments copy-pasted from reddit threads, in contrast to linking the actual threads directly? That explains a lot.

Re: Reddit for iOS and Android

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Post by kuschku »

Slippery_John wrote: post #22

I thought the whole point of not doing mobile apps themselves was because it's a waste of engineering time since there's a massive community that will do the work for them. I would much rather see them focus on making the site better.

But with third party apps they can't do user tracking or showing ads everywhere.

Re: Reddit for iOS and Android

#160

Post by dave2000 »

nezza-_- wrote: post #152
levemi wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not sure if that is Imgur intentionally trying to prevent people from not seeing their "Download our app" banners everywhere, or a bug in AB, but it is very annoying. It's a problem with Alien Blue, not imgur. It just needs to enable cookies across webviews.

> It just needs to enable cookies across webviews. 'just' enable something that has an impact on user privacy?

They'll know you visited the site before? Why would I want to lose functionality to mitigate against that?
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