Your iPhone just got less secure. Blame the FBI

Post by zeveb » Wed, Mar 30, 2016, 4:43 PM UTC

studentrob wrote: post #68

maxerickson wrote: post #46

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It seems to me that Tim Cook and the FBI understand each other very well. They just don't care about the same things. Former CIA and NSA Director Michael Hayden clearly understands the issues. I saw an interview where he stated that the FBI was correct to want access (it makes their job easier) and that we shouldn't give it to them (he understands that a backdoor will be used in ways other than intended). The point b…

Public officials answer to a different standard than private citizens who run companies. The oath of the FBI is not to make their own jobs easier. It is to maintain public security. If the Director of the FBI cannot do that effectively, then that is a blemish on the record of President Obama who appointed Comey. There's a definite need for someone to step up and say that on balance, we are more secure without trying…

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Post by function_seven » Wed, Mar 30, 2016, 4:46 PM UTC

carleverett wrote: post #150

function_seven wrote: post #138

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If one of the doors is shown to not have the prize , the odds are now 1/2 when the choice of reveal door is made randomly. That's because 1/3 of the time, you're not even offered the chance to switch, since it's pointless. I'll run the trials here. Assume the first two doors have the goat, and the third door has the car. Pick Reveal Switch? Outcome ---- ------ ------- ------- 1 2 Y 3 Car 2 1 Y 3 Car 3 1 N 3 Car 3 2 N…

But in the actual game, you are always given the chance to switch. Here are the possible outcomes of the game, with the third column being what the contestant should do to win: You Pick Car Switch? ------- ----- ------ 1 1 N 2 1 Y 3 1 Y 1 2 Y 2 2 N 3 2 Y 1 3 Y 2 3 Y 3 3 N Without knowing anything else, switching means that you win 2/3 of the time.

Post by mikeash » Wed, Mar 30, 2016, 4:49 PM UTC

noobie wrote: post #24

I am sure they just hired some interns to code = 0000 While code_is_valid not true: enter code reboot device code++ Edit: I am pretty sure there's a delay in code execution registering a wrong pin hence by rebooting the phone, the wrong pins won't get detected.

Post by woodman » Wed, Mar 30, 2016, 4:52 PM UTC

ikeboy wrote: post #141

woodman wrote: post #127

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So have you not heard that this would set a legal precedent? Apple would get pestered until they finally create an automatic gateway for turn key security breaking, not unlike the wiretap portals setup by telecoms - or the frequently abused youtube DMCA mechanisms.

It only sets a precedent that they can give phones to Apple and have them unlock them, as long as it's possible for them to do so. If Apple decides to build a general backdoor and hand it to the government that's entirely their decision.

Post by jfoster » Wed, Mar 30, 2016, 4:55 PM UTC

ikeboy wrote: post #141

woodman wrote: post #127

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So have you not heard that this would set a legal precedent? Apple would get pestered until they finally create an automatic gateway for turn key security breaking, not unlike the wiretap portals setup by telecoms - or the frequently abused youtube DMCA mechanisms.

It only sets a precedent that they can give phones to Apple and have them unlock them, as long as it's possible for them to do so. If Apple decides to build a general backdoor and hand it to the government that's entirely their decision.