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Sci-Hub as necessary, effective civil disobedience

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I feel like you're blaming the wrong party here.

The "blaming" is in your head. People who explain how things happen do not "blame".

Don't talk bullshit.

There clearly is blame put on the proxies

> it [the proxy] is a major headache that can get the whole university locked out

Whether either the practice of lock out should be blamed for immoral licensing or the proxy servers blamed for immoral illicit access, is not properly explained here.

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Disclaimers: I live in another country, and I research in digital forensics -- that has quite an open community. In my situation, I've never reached anywhere near that point. All my works are available for donwload as PDFs, and even if they weren't, my research group keeps a repository where we can re-download/point/email anyone who asks for them. We haven't published in IEEE journals (yet), but as of our countrys la…

Mine was in electromagnetism. Far less open. I don't live in the US, either, so perhaps the legal situation here would allow me some recourse. I just didn't care enough to investigate, academia is something I've long put behind me :-). As for your questions: 1. There are publishers which require you to relinquish all your rights to distribution, copying etc.. In other words, they basically own every right to the fina…

Thanks for the answer!

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Scientists do research paid for by institutions, universities, large charities and other scientific institutions. They write research papers and they have it published and those same institutions pay to get that information back. I can't think of any other area where such a crappy business model prevails.

The scientific community should reclaim their intellectual capital.

Re: Sci-Hub as necessary, effective civil disobedience

#154

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Mine was in electromagnetism. Far less open. I don't live in the US, either, so perhaps the legal situation here would allow me some recourse. I just didn't care enough to investigate, academia is something I've long put behind me :-). As for your questions: 1. There are publishers which require you to relinquish all your rights to distribution, copying etc.. In other words, they basically own every right to the fina…

Genuinely asking (not snark, and I am not a physicist): what does it mean to conduct research in "electromagnetism" more than a century after Maxwell? Did you study superconductivity? Electrical power beaming? Magnetic properties of weird alloys? I ask only because I thought people who study these things are more likely to say they research "electrical engineering" (if they want to be general and applied), or "conden…

Uh :-). I said electromagnetism because it sounds waaay less pretentious than what it was generally termed -- computational electromagnetism -- and because claiming it was microelectronics, while technically correct, was somewhat frowned upon at our university because we were in the wrong department for that. Politics and whatnot.

We were doing research on simulation and model extraction techniques for passive structures in very high-frequency (think 30 GHz) integrated circuits. At these frequencies, the lumped-element approximations break down, so you can't describe the functioning of passive devices in the familiar manner, based on Kirchhof's equations et co.. That means SPICE-family tools can't give you proper results anymore, and you kind of need them to design the circuit.

The "proper" way to do it is full-wave simulation; unfortunately -- especially for very wide-band devices -- that's computationally very costly (simulating the behaviour of the device at a specific frequency isn't very cheap on its own, but we're talking about simulating it for a whole range of frequencies, which could span tens of GHz). You could plug those results into SPICE, of course, but running these simulations took hours, sometimes even days, for a single run, which is completely impractical. It's also not the level you want to work at when designing circuits -- where you're solving "circuit problems", not "field problems".

So what we were trying to do was:

a) Figure out how to make the simulations faster and more accurate, and

b) Figure out how to extract a model from them, i.e. an equivalent circuit, which could be readily used by the design engineers.

We did that through a combination of things like running as few simulations as possible and extrapolating, running simulations in parallel and so on. It wasn't some major scientific breakthrough, but then again, I worked there during my 3rd and 4th year of university; it was the most difficult kind of work I'd done until that point.

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as i understand it the argument for pay walling is the costs of peer review? so how about a service where you publish the paper, but pay for the peer review that grants your paper an accreditation of significance or legitimacy this current system of peer review to enter our journal to determine legitimacy is prone to too many errors: corporate buy outs, poor standards, peer review is only done once prepublication; an…

Peer review is done for free by the reviewers.

Re: Sci-Hub as necessary, effective civil disobedience

#156

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So maybe this shows that people don't fit neatly into categories like "good" and "bad", they can do both, and shades of grey in-between.

Or maybe this shows that bad people sometimes do good things out of serendipity; sometimes they even get credit and manage to hide their evilness. It doesn't make them in any way similar to Aaron Swartz, though.

"evil" people are pretty rare, most people believe they're doing the good thing. Sometimes they're correct.

Re: Sci-Hub as necessary, effective civil disobedience

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post #155

as i understand it the argument for pay walling is the costs of peer review? so how about a service where you publish the paper, but pay for the peer review that grants your paper an accreditation of significance or legitimacy this current system of peer review to enter our journal to determine legitimacy is prone to too many errors: corporate buy outs, poor standards, peer review is only done once prepublication; an…

Peer review is done for free by the reviewers.

my understanding is: unpaid work is the model but the current appointment of that model makes liberal use of the term honorarium(o)

(o) https://www.google.com/search?q=honorarium

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May be even using something like DHT on top of WebRTC could allow to upload/download those papers easily.

There's a thumping amount of data there. 485 torrents, each torrent containing 100 zips of around 500MB each, each zip containing 1000 papers. Total = 500MB * 100 * 485 ~ 25TB. If your have a 10Mbit/s link into your house, it's 280 days of continuous downloading. New torrents seem to be appearing at the rate of 14 per month = 700GB/month = 2.7Mbit/s. For the majority of people, I'd say it is beyond any one person bei…

If enough people keep the torrents alive no one person would need to mirror all of it, certainly not all at once.

Re: Sci-Hub as necessary, effective civil disobedience

#159

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Genuinely asking (not snark, and I am not a physicist): what does it mean to conduct research in "electromagnetism" more than a century after Maxwell? Did you study superconductivity? Electrical power beaming? Magnetic properties of weird alloys? I ask only because I thought people who study these things are more likely to say they research "electrical engineering" (if they want to be general and applied), or "conden…

Uh :-). I said electromagnetism because it sounds waaay less pretentious than what it was generally termed -- computational electromagnetism -- and because claiming it was microelectronics, while technically correct, was somewhat frowned upon at our university because we were in the wrong department for that. Politics and whatnot. We were doing research on simulation and model extraction techniques for passive struct…

Sounds very interesting, thanks for sharing :)

Re: Sci-Hub as necessary, effective civil disobedience

#160

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The "blaming" is in your head. People who explain how things happen do not "blame".

Don't talk bullshit. There clearly is blame put on the proxies > it [the proxy] is a major headache that can get the whole university locked out Whether either the practice of lock out should be blamed for immoral licensing or the proxy servers blamed for immoral illicit access, is not properly explained here.

Don't talk bullshit.

Just because you think in categories of 'blame' doesn't mean everyone else does.

For some people there is a difference between causality and guilt.

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