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Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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There are a few factors at play here that have led to high salaries for engineers. First, the aforementioned funding bubble. Second, a correction to depressed wages due to collusion between the big tech companies. Third, increasing demand for tech workers in historically non tech sectors (Eg. Home Depot has mobile apps for home improvement). I have no idea what the attribution split is. But I'm fairly certain wages w…

What? Where are people going to get the money to pay higher/equivalent salaries if not funding? The non-tech sector seems perfectly content to pay engineers 60k under constant threat of outsourcing. In the absence of Silicon Valley competing for talent they'll get away with less, not more.

Silicon Valley won't disappear.

Google/Facebook/Apple/Microsoft/etc have been and will continue competing for talent. 2005 to 2009 was hardly a time of "easy money", yet the big tech companies still had to resort to collusion to combat demand for engineers.

Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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What? Where are people going to get the money to pay higher/equivalent salaries if not funding? The non-tech sector seems perfectly content to pay engineers 60k under constant threat of outsourcing. In the absence of Silicon Valley competing for talent they'll get away with less, not more.

Silicon Valley won't disappear. Google/Facebook/Apple/Microsoft/etc have been and will continue competing for talent. 2005 to 2009 was hardly a time of "easy money", yet the big tech companies still had to resort to collusion to combat demand for engineers.

What? 2006 was the heyday of Rails and the gazillions of startups built on it.

Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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Silicon Valley won't disappear. Google/Facebook/Apple/Microsoft/etc have been and will continue competing for talent. 2005 to 2009 was hardly a time of "easy money", yet the big tech companies still had to resort to collusion to combat demand for engineers.

What? 2006 was the heyday of Rails and the gazillions of startups built on it.

Yes, but not the hayday of crazy series D rounds.

EDIT: Easy data point, YCombinator was only a 20k investment back then. Very different story of access to funding.

Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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Options vs. shorting are just two different ways to risk all your capital on a bet... the "unlimited" downside of a short position has a practical limit--it's when your broker forces your account to cover with buys (the short squeeze) and you zero out.

You describe selling a call. Not buying a put. (jessaustin is right about these.)

No, I described the practical downside exposure of a short (or, the trader could put in a stop). It is no more "unlimited" than is the downside of buying a bunch of ultimately worthless options.

Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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I think that this is just the beginning. In my opinion, we're heading for a tech bust that's going to spread to the rest of the economy, and deflate additional bubbles (housing, for one). The government has been pushing cheap money for the better part of a decade in the name of creating the appearance of a 'recovery', but what they've really done is build a new house of cards. Make no mistake: the 'free' money that's…

In places like SV and Vancouver housing prices are not strongly connected to the economic reach of the median person. China has a middle class as big as the entire US, and a huge number of millionaires in USD, and an unstable, opaque state-run economy, so huge numbers of rich Chinese are buying real estate abroad to protect their wealth and to give their kids a life in the US. I would be happy to see a movement to ke…

Seems more like 100M, not the entire US population: http://qz.com/523626/chinas-middle-class-has-overtaken-the-u...

Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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In places like SV and Vancouver housing prices are not strongly connected to the economic reach of the median person. China has a middle class as big as the entire US, and a huge number of millionaires in USD, and an unstable, opaque state-run economy, so huge numbers of rich Chinese are buying real estate abroad to protect their wealth and to give their kids a life in the US. I would be happy to see a movement to ke…

China has 300 million people middle class? Do you stop for a moment to listen to yourself? Middle class where? In China, earning $500/month?

Why not just find a source to better explain numbers?

You're right it's not that big but it's the biggest in the world: http://qz.com/523626/chinas-middle-class-has-overtaken-the-u...

Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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Understand how this could help you find a buyer, but if I were in this situation I'm not sure whether I'd want to put that on my LinkedIn profile.

Putting your title or the fact that you were one of the first employees at a company on your LinkedIn profile is pretty common, no? Just to spell it out - that's the perfectly clear indication, not 'oh hi I have 125,000 shares of X to sell'.

That does make sense - I read your original comment a bit too literally.

Re: Secondary shops flooded with unicorn sellers

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You describe selling a call. Not buying a put. (jessaustin is right about these.)

No, I described the practical downside exposure of a short (or, the trader could put in a stop). It is no more "unlimited" than is the downside of buying a bunch of ultimately worthless options.

Unless your options trade on an exchange, and they have a clearing house behind them. (The government doesn't let the clearing house fail.)
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