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How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Re: How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Post by jacquesm »

GFischer wrote: post #150
jacquesm wrote: post #79

Interesting, I've been doing just that for the last couple of years. It's been a mix of partial successes and total failures, mostly failures. I didn't want to go the 'mfa' route for obvious reasons, so I try to make these sites in to something that actually is useful, and that have a sense of community about them. Here is a breakdown of what you can make this way in a month based on adsense alone after several years…

Thanks for sharing those figures. For someone EU-based it might not be much... but for me (South America-based) it would be more than my day job :) . I hope I'll have the strength of will to follow through and do this :)

You're welcome. If you want more specific info mail me.

Re: How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Post by zaidf »

jacquesm wrote: post #139
zaidf wrote: post #136

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It's totally doable IMO. A friend of mine who knows nothing more than how to setup a wordpress(answer: get her bf to do it) wrote 20 posts and forgot about the blog. She gets ~$50 check from google every month. She was laughing about it. The life time value of her blog post is pretty cool! I don't know if it scales(I'm presuming it does from posts like the OP). But hey I like the initial numbers.

Cool! But to prove it works you need to scale it, and that's where the hard part sits I think. I fell for it in just that way. This all started with http://www.clustercompute.com/ A small site about a project that I built years ago. I rebuilt it using drupal, and the template had a nice spot for a google ad in it so I thought oh well, whatever, let's do that. To my surprise it made some money! Hey I thought, that's e…

I don't think the idea is so much to grow that one site's revenue from $50 to $500 by making it a full fledge property that attracts attention.

The idea is to build 400 small $50 properties that stay low-key and bring in a small but sustained amount of rev each month.

From your effort, it seems like you tried to make one large property which I can see as being harder to pull off for this particular strategy.

Re: How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Post by brown9-2 »

ellyagg wrote: post #141
il wrote: post #119

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I agree completely, $1 a day times 400 sites is simply not feasible. This article is terrible advice, the kind that will probably lead you to failure. I have a fairly successful affiliate marketing business (I make more than I would if I had a day job), and it seems like every day I talk to people who are taking this approach and making $1-$2 a day. The article's logic is flawed- if it were that easy to make projects…

Hmmmm. As it happens, you're wrong and to the extent your parent supports your thesis, he's wrong, too. I work for an SEO marketing firm and one of my coworkers built up a portfolio of $1/day projects exactly in the mold of this article over the course of 2 or 3 years, and once he got to about $6000/month, he quit to do it full time. And he was no genius and had very little technical skill--he hired out all his progr…

One aneccote disproves his thesis?

Re: How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Post by chime »

helwr wrote: post #64
maxklein wrote: post #40

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One of the reasons I write now is to grow my popularity, so that one day I will have enough reach to be able to build something big and grand and people will actually notice.

you don't have to be popular to build something, unless you want to be a popular writer. people will notice if your product is good

If you're not popular, only a few people will notice your product is good. Being popular helps your good work being noticed more publicly.

The only reason Hunch.com got so much popularity on launch is because it was a project by Flickr founder Caterina Fake. If you or I had made an exact site, it wouldn't have got even 1/10th the coverage. Being popular helps if you can repeat your past successes.

Re: How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Post by galactus »

brown9-2 wrote: post #153
ellyagg wrote: post #141

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Hmmmm. As it happens, you're wrong and to the extent your parent supports your thesis, he's wrong, too. I work for an SEO marketing firm and one of my coworkers built up a portfolio of $1/day projects exactly in the mold of this article over the course of 2 or 3 years, and once he got to about $6000/month, he quit to do it full time. And he was no genius and had very little technical skill--he hired out all his progr…

One aneccote disproves his thesis?

It sure does, he provided a counterexample to an absolute statement (".. is simply not possible").

Re: How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Post by jacquesm »

zaidf wrote: post #152
jacquesm wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cool! But to prove it works you need to scale it, and that's where the hard part sits I think. I fell for it in just that way. This all started with http://www.clustercompute.com/ A small site about a project that I built years ago. I rebuilt it using drupal, and the template had a nice spot for a google ad in it so I thought oh well, whatever, let's do that. To my surprise it made some money! Hey I thought, that's e…

I don't think the idea is so much to grow that one site's revenue from $50 to $500 by making it a full fledge property that attracts attention. The idea is to build 400 small $50 properties that stay low-key and bring in a small but sustained amount of rev each month. From your effort, it seems like you tried to make one large property which I can see as being harder to pull off for this particular strategy.

No, on the contrary, I tried exactly that, but it seems that some stuff develops traction and the majority simply bombs.

So very few sites land on that '$1/day' target.

Maybe it's my lousy aim!

Re: How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Post by enriketuned »

prawn wrote: post #145

I do something roughly like this on the side, but trending more towards MFA stuff (not that ninja videos with ads isn't the same). Rather than $1/day, I look to cover the base cost of the domains as a starting point (4c/day at least). Some sites absolutely struggle because they're half-arsed with poor content, no pagerank and few backlinks while others rank really well for reasonable 2-3 word keyphrases. Of the sites…

Would you mind pointing out how your domains are hosted and registered? Thanks

Re: How to become rich even if nobody is following you on Twitter

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Post by davi »

jacquesm wrote: post #91
DanielBMarkham wrote: post #90

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I'd add something else. It's all so very easy to say that you can quickly make a buck a day on the internet. "Sure, just throw together some videos of puppies and put some adsense on there" but that's not the reality of the net today. People and companies are heavily competing on every freaking keyword that anybody might be interested in. That doesn't mean there isn't opportunities, but it's a much longer haul than j…

You're absolutely correct. Note that in that list there are several sites that have millions of pageviews per month (a success by most standards), and in spite of that the monetization simply sucks. If you were to spread those millions of pageviews across many smaller sites the maintenance headache would be a multiple of what it is right now and you'd still not make more than roughly $1000 / month. If I lost all the…

I remember Noah Everett talked about transitioning from AdSense to other options in his Mixergy interview. This from the transcript:

"Andrew: When did you have that big leap, from making just a few hundred or a few thousand dollars to actually making substantial money? Was there a month that you actually took that big leap?

Interviewee: Yeah, so when we moved away from Google AdSense to other ad partners, because I just stuck the AdSense code on there just to be generating something. I really didn't know anything about ads, or CPM or CTR, or whatever. I generally knew what it was, but when we started getting into higher quality advertisers, that's when the saw the revenue it creates." [1]

I don't know anything about monetizing by ads but I took this to mean that there are other, more profitable places to sell ads than AdSense, presumably based on some volume of clearly targeted, well characterized traffic.

So Jaques, if you have millions of pageviews per month, could you transition from AdSense to whatever it is Noah Everett is referring to? If not, why not?

[1] http://mixergy.com/twitpic-noah-everett/

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