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Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

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Post by alphapapa »

sdesol wrote: post #118
alphapapa wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want to pooh-pooh anyone's hard work--please don't misunderstand me--but I am legitimately curious: why put so much effort into building a house of cards upon a foundation of shifting sand? Your project is completely dependent on GitHub's reliability, integrity, and goodwill. It could implement its own version of your enhancements and render yours obsolete. Arguably, it should do that, because what's the poin…

You have a valid point, but what isn't obvious is my technology isn't really dependent on GitHub. The only thing that can cripple me is Git becoming less vogue. There are two parts to my technology: - There is the front end which is 100% JavaScript and this is important since it allows me to build on top of existing web solutions like GitHub - There is the indexing engine which was insanely hard to develop and is wha…

That's very interesting. Thanks.

Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

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Post by chetanahuja »

Aloha wrote: post #6

Why would someone (specifically a large enterprise) outsource source control? Running a local svn or git server is fairly trivial.

Seconded with the strongest possible level of agreement. Though it seems github has an on-prem product for enterprises, how much value could they provide on top of a cheaper (or free) option of gitlab and such?

Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

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Post by weinzierl »

forgotpwtomain wrote: post #134
weinzierl wrote: post #116

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> there is still no way to search commits I guess you mean commit messages, because you can search the code on Github. For the messages, if your repository is public you can use Google like this: > Search all branches of all crawled repos for "change license" > > "change license" site:https://github.com/*/*/commits > > Search master branch of all crawled repos for "change license" > > "change license" site:https://gi…

You cannot do this for private repos? Anyways besides that, just having to know these hacks means there is absolutely no sense in committing to using a GUI tool when all of this is adequately implemented in command-line. Why a company with estimated worth at billion dollars+ can't add something as simple as commit message search though -- I don't know.

No you can't do this for private repos and it's kind of a hack anyway.

Just slapping a GUI to the command line interface wouldn't scale but given that they already support code search I don't understand why the don't support commit message search either.

Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

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Post by [deleted] »

forgotpwtomain wrote: post #134
weinzierl wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> there is still no way to search commits I guess you mean commit messages, because you can search the code on Github. For the messages, if your repository is public you can use Google like this: > Search all branches of all crawled repos for "change license" > > "change license" site:https://github.com/*/*/commits > > Search master branch of all crawled repos for "change license" > > "change license" site:https://gi…

You cannot do this for private repos? Anyways besides that, just having to know these hacks means there is absolutely no sense in committing to using a GUI tool when all of this is adequately implemented in command-line. Why a company with estimated worth at billion dollars+ can't add something as simple as commit message search though -- I don't know.

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Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

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Post by sdesol »

kannonboy wrote: post #146
sdesol wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have a valid point, but what isn't obvious is my technology isn't really dependent on GitHub. The only thing that can cripple me is Git becoming less vogue. There are two parts to my technology: - There is the front end which is 100% JavaScript and this is important since it allows me to build on top of existing web solutions like GitHub - There is the indexing engine which was insanely hard to develop and is wha…

Nice one! Looks very slick. I'm a dev attached to Bitbucket, I'm curious if you've seen the Bitbucket Connect framework: https://developer.atlassian.com/bitbucket/guides/getting-sta... The browser extension is nifty, but Connect provides a proper API for embedding custom views in the Bitbucket UI if you want something a bit more robust (i.e. it will still work even if we decide to change the DOM at some point in the…

I looked at Bitbucket Connect, but it looks like everything is done via iframe for obvious security reasons. This doesn't appear to be the case with Bitbucket server.

Somebody from Atlassian has reached out to me and I'll get back to them next week to see what can be done to get this working with the Connect framework.

Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

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Post by manigandham »

zippergz wrote: post #7
PhilWright wrote: post #4

I don't understand why this is an issue for the current employees. Surely you hire a bunch of sales people and a bunch of consultants to help with on-boarding/support and place them in a separate floor or building. They don't really need to interact with developers. The 'brogrammers' just carry on as normal and some of their work is now adding features to help support enterprise requirements. Unless your sitting a co…

Enterprise sales people can make a habit of selling things that the product can't currently do, and then forcing engineering to make it a reality on a compressed timeline because "this is a deal we can't afford to lose." Repeatedly. No idea if that's happeing at GitHub, but I've seen it happen a few other places, and it sucks for the engineering and product teams even if the sales people are in a different state. In…

> some people may not be as interested in working on stuff they have no interest in using themselves.

Good thing this isn't some voluntary project but a massively funded commercial company. Since when must employees love every little thing they're doing?

This kind of BS culture is what runs companies into the ground the moment they need to actually build something that isn't "fun".

Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

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Post by BostonEnginerd »

st3v3r wrote: post #31
teej wrote: post #16

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Sales people don't make this happen, management makes this happen. An org within a company only has as much power as management gives it.

No, do not wave away Sales' culpability in this. Those in Sales are adults, who are fully capable of taking responsibility for their actions.

Yes, and sales are put under pressure by management to make numbers come hell or high water.

Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

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Post by dang »

reustle wrote: post #102
GreaterFool wrote: post #83

I love GitHub but IMHO GitHub could use a bit of a shake up. * Code browsing is terrible and without `octotree` I don't know what I would do. * Organization view is a joke; once you have 50 repos, good luck finding anything there. * There is no way of managing anything on higher level, only per repo. I can live with that but there are people who want to track issues across the projects. And then one ends up with JIRA…

> Code search is also a joke or even an insult Oh give me a break and get over yourself. An insult? Are you serious?

It's true that "an insult" is over the top, but please don't go there in response.
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