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Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

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Re: Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

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Harry Potter is a poorly written kids fantasy, how does that relate to programming?

While we're straying from hackery... I'm curious to hear your recommendations for well written kids' fantasy.

Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials is a solid choice. It gets dark, but so does Harry Potter, so fair game. I would say late grade school for the first book, adolescent for books 2 and 3.

Tamora Pierce has written a number of kid appropriate fantasy books with solid writing and strong female characters. I have seen countless grade school girls get hooked on her work. Some of her books just start to get into more mature relationship themes, but it's enough to embarrass your kid a bit, not scar them.

As a child I enjoyed C.S. Lewis, but was personally affronted when I got to the last Narnia book and discovered that good story had been compromised for christian allegory. Lewis won't make your child a bible thumped any more than Pullman will make them an atheist. Just make sure you know what your kid is reading, and find opportunities to discus the material with them critically!

Ursula K. Le Guin's Earthsea series is another excellent option. I believe when I read it in grade school I found the pacing too slow, so I skipped ahead a lot and inferred a number of plot points. Nonetheless, I'm certain I enjoyed it the first time, it influenced my view of fantasy literature, and I have returned to reread the series multiple times since.

The Hobbit is a great kids book.

Alison Croggon's Pellinor series is less well known, but perfect for pre/early teens that love fantasy.

The Enchanted Forest Chronicles by Patricia Wrede feature a princess who runs away from home to work for a dragon. Solid writing, strong female characters, Pratchett-esque subversion of fantasy tropes. Fun and appropriate for grade school kids.

Howl's Moving Castle by Diana Wynne Jones

That's off the top of my head. Of these books I consider Pullman, Le Guin, and Tolkien to be literature (worth an adult's time), while the others are just fun and well written.

Re: Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

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I was just thinking about Die Hard the other day. He was brilliant in all his roles.

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/alan-rickman-fell-for-real-in-die-...

His expression of surprise was real in Die Hard as the stunt crew dropped him on the count of one instead of three!

Re: Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

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"By Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Warvan, you shall be avenged!" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_Quest

When the elevator to the spaceport goes down and the ship is revealed, Rickman's character says "Oh, my God... it's real." It's such a little line but it encapsulates the whole spirit of the film. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrYsg2RFL30

Re: Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

##SPOILER!##!!

The book was out 9 years ago, and the movie was ~4 years ago. I'm going to say this one's legit. If you haven't seen or read it by now, it's your own dang fault.

The parent post also really doesn't divulge anything about the plot.

Re: Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

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Eight movies of "so much like your father" just so he could deliver the "you have your mother's eyes" line, that one time; and undo all Harry's doubts and fears in that one moment.

Honestly, I don't think that plot device worked at all in either the book or the movie, and no amount of good acting could make it convincing. Roald-Dahl-style crazy dystopias don't stretch out to longer works very well. (They're not that good in shorter works, either.)

Re: Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

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Another great dies at 69 of cancer, days apart. Imagine all of the unknowns who die too early. I really hope we figure this out.

Then there was Lemmy (70) at the weekend, also cancer. I also heard a few days ago that a friend lost his father to cancer. It's been a bad week.

Well, I guess the amount of alcohol, tobacco and other stuff consumed might have been a (small) factor

Re: Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

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Eight movies of "so much like your father" just so he could deliver the "you have your mother's eyes" line, that one time; and undo all Harry's doubts and fears in that one moment.

Honestly, I don't think that plot device worked at all in either the book or the movie, and no amount of good acting could make it convincing. Roald-Dahl-style crazy dystopias don't stretch out to longer works very well. (They're not that good in shorter works, either.)

I didn't read the books, so all my knowledge is from the movies. I am probably not alone in this regards.

And I am married to a children's librarian who has read them all, so I've already heard the criticism, to which I answer I don't read much fiction, but I enjoy watching it. I like to condense my make-believe.

That aside, I think if you hadn't read the books, you might consider it more convincing since you weren't expecting it; which I didn't, and in retrospect the build up was pretty good given how Harry starts getting tired of hearing people put those two lines together and started finishing it himself to move past that part of the dialog.

I've read that Rowlings let Rickman in on it fairly early so he could understand the motivation and avoid just being a rock-monster.

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