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Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Reminds me of lombard street [1]. It can be pretty tiring for the residents to see a constant barrage of tourists, stopping their vehicles on the street to take pictures. Imagine leaving or returning home at "peak tourist hours", how difficult it would be to drive your car near your home. I guess the burden is on a home owner to figure out what they are walking into when they buy a house near a popular tourist attrac…

During one portion of the year, my neighborhood has small hordes of visitors due to a large wildflower field across the street. Mostly I find it charming, and my worst confrontation involved telling a guy "Hey, please don't park on my lawn", and him replying "oh, sorry, I'll move immediately". I don't see why seeing people taking pictures of a landmark in your neighborhood should be tiring.

Usually it's because it has some impact on you. Like blocking your driveway, taking up all the parking, or leaving trash.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

#152
post #90

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When I lived there it irritated me a great deal, not that I minded hiking up the hill but the residents are very aggressive. They'll stop you if you even walking along the road, that kind of thing gets me worked up. I thought about confronting the issue but figured I don't need to waste my time or money on such endeavors.

Welp, I know what I'm doing this weekend. This sounds like fun.

I would fund that project in a split second. Best of luck to you!

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

#153
post #87

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>>> Friend of mine got one of those hard to remove stickers put on their car for taking her mother up there. What did they put on her car?

It's a sticker that gets put on your window. They're very hard to remove. http://www.myparkingpermit.com/Parking-Violation-Stickers/No...

One of my very first deployments was to Germany, where we guarded a hospital. People like the colonel's wife would park in the ER drivethrough for up to an hour at a time. Yes, blocking emergency access for any ambulance that might need to come through. I got very butthurt about this and the old sargeant of the guard on duty smiled real big and opened up the bottom drawer of his desk, dug way back in there, and extracted a stack of 8.5x11", bright neon orange, "impossible to remove without fucking up the car window" stickers that said nasty things about parking like an asshole (in German and English). They were very aggressive stickers. But imagine my delight when he told me to stick them on the cars parking in the ER drivethrough. My only rule was that I couldn't put them over the driver's side windshield and block their vision forward. So I started slapping these fat motherfuckers on the driver's side window. Adults wept and threw tantrums when they saw these stickers. The kind of reaction you would expect out of someone that parks where the ambulance needs to go at a hospital when bringing in someone that might be dying.

There are times when these stickers are used for the forces of good, you know.

Edit: I still have about half of that stack of stickers at home. I still only ever use them for the forces of good. :)

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

#154
post #9

> then—in something I’ve never seen before, anywhere on Google Maps—a dashed gray line arcs from Griffith Observatory, over Mt. Lee Uhm, Google Maps do this all the time if there is no route to the place you selected. I'd say I see it every time I use the routing feature by hand or by entering GPS coordinates, i.e. not when I write an address down.

Another example would be great!

It did the same dashed gray path when you asked it to route across oceans. The flights feature has removed that "feature," along with their quips about paddling across the Pacific in a canoe, if I recall their joking text correctly.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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I was really curious about that, as I live in southern Marin and have wanted to go up that road before. Are you sure it's a public road though? I found this: http://sausalito.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&clip_... On page 2, there's a line that says, "Wolfback Ridge Road is a private road maintained by the Wolfback Ridge Association, a neighborhood homeowner’s association (see Exhibit R for Association inform…

There's also "The location of the current gate to the Ridge is on state-owned property, and because of the width of the road and lack of adequate turnaround space" from https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:g9QMap...

More interesting is Fritz Warren, although the person in question may be his son:

In later life, as a property owner and builder on Wolfback Ridge in Sausalito, he worked to conserve that area in his capacity as Sausalito councilman and mayor in the 1970's and 80's, as an early board member of the Sausalito Historical Society, and as a longtime Rotarian.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/marinij/obituary.aspx?pid=1...

I think a rich ex-councilman and former mayor would have quite a bit of sway if that was the case.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

#156
post #50

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Then allow them to go at night and put some street lights up the trail. Also not impossible.

The problem is not providing better access. That's what the populace might want. The residents, who are already happily interfering and obstructing, illegally at times, don't want that, and certainly don't want the idea of 'night access'.

The problem is providing better access without limiting access for the police or fire men.

So you need to provide a parking lot and a dedicated trail to make sure people can reach their goal (seeing the sign in person) without going through the neighborhood itself.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

#157

I have to wonder why more residents aren't trying to milk money out of the tourists. Isn't that what is supposed to happen around every tourist attraction? If I lived there, I might just pave a few extra parking spaces into my property and charge $5 for first 30 minutes and $5 each additional 60 minutes thereafter. Buy lemonade, hiking maps, souvenir magnets, and postcards from the kiosk. 10%-off coupons for checking…

Disney World is the most visited theme park in the world. Good luck at scaring tourists away by turning something into Disney World... "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded."

Of all the family vacations I have ever taken, visiting Disney World as an adult represented, by far, the worst ratio of relaxation and entertainment enjoyed per dollar spent.

It's one of the few places on Earth that makes me wish I was back at home, working all day.

But it is such a massive black hole for tourism that I was still somehow find myself there against my will sometimes. Then, when we're all back at the hotel, thoroughly miserable, someone asks, "Why are we even here?" And no-one knows. Clearly, someone thought that it would be fun this time, but it never actually turns out that way. Nobody even remembers planning the trip. We all thought we were going to a beach up on the Florida panhandle. But when we arrive, it's actually Clearwater, near Orlando. Every road we take, trying to get back to the beach, twists around like a Moebius strip, and ends up right back in the Disney World parking lot, under the monorails.

So we say to ourselves, "Ok, we'll just get one pineapple whip, and then we'll leave, and try to get to the vacation we actually wanted." Then we trudge up Main Street USA and hang a left, then another left, and another left, spending 20 minutes to go from the park entrance to the nearest place in the park that sells the cursed treats, when I know damned well that the employee utility corridors underneath us, on the first floor, are straight and efficient. So we think, "As long as we're here, we might as well go on one of the rides, right?" And we get into line. We get through that line, which leads to another queue. And that takes us into a vestibule, where we see a short video with a group of other guests. After it finishes, the doors open into another queuing labyrinth. When we wait long enough to get through it, there's just one more line, and after that, we're on the actual ride. We get into the ride vehicle, and sit through five minutes of something that may have been considered to be good, clean fun in the 60s, but is now disappointingly dated, racist, and sexist. Afterward, we are deposited in the gift shop, which stands between us and the exit. After escaping, now we need to pee, so that's another unnecessarily long journey across the park and possibly more queuing. By now, it would be too late to get to the beach before dark, so we just decide to finish out the day there.

Again, how the heck did we even get there in the first place? Was it a Groupon? Maybe a neighbor couldn't use their vacation club passes this year? We won the trip in a sweepstakes? Booked by Satan's own travel agency? Nobody knows. We just end up there, being milked of our hard earned cash, like cows with udders overfilled with silver nitrate solution.

Nobody actually wants to be there. They all just show up one day, and are too exhausted to fight their way back out of the parking lot.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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> Yes, but no one stays at a yard sale for more than 2 or 3 minutes That would be an exceptionally short visit to a yard sale. No way do you actually manage to buy something in less than 180 seconds. More likely, they'll be there for 10-15 minutes. That's still too short for a tow truck to come, but it's not too short to be an inconvenience.

Of course, most people don't buy. At least for me, I probably only buy something at ever 4th or 5th yard sale I go to. It's easy to walk in, scan the tables, realize there's nothing of interest to me, and leave.

Yep, that's 90% of people.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

#159
post #72

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I actually rent a house with intent to buy soon. If someone did block my driveway, and I needed to get somewhere I would politely ask them to move because that's how human interaction should work. I'm not trolling, I'm making a general plea for more cool headed reasonable human interaction. If there were an emergency and my driveway was blocked I would probably drive through the grass as it is just grass and I have m…

> I'm not trolling, I'm making a general plea for more cool headed reasonable human interaction. That's great. Would you park and block somebody's driveway?

If I was running to a yard sale for a couple minutes and there was nowhere else to park? Of course.
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