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Ask HN: New attempt at mobile markup – keep or bail?

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Re: Ask HN: New attempt at mobile markup – keep or bail?

#151

It's awful. I thought HN just didn't care. Why is this so hard? I do this every day for work and HN should be dead simple. Is this saying HN doesn't have anyone who knows how to do this? EDIT: My initial post was from my phone. Now I'm on my workstation and I see the markup here is antiquated, pre-1998 HTML. No wonder this is so horrid. You should be ashamed but, still, I could do better.

I see cowardly HN'ers downvoting my post without commenting on how they think I'm wrong (I'm not and I'm better than you) but I restrained myself on what I really thought. My grandmother could write better markup than this; and she's been dead for 50 years!

Your approach is what they were downvoting.

Using the words, 'cowardly' to describe other people you don't know, and saying 'I'm better than you', to people you don't know, and saying 'my grandmother could write better markup', to a group of people you don't know, probably just made them classify you as a 'troll'.

I saw the markup, and saw they needed guidance (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10489954), you saw the markup and decided they weren't worth helping. That's sad really. No one is an expert in everything.

Try helping out, rather than lambasting.

I was just reading a great book entitled 'Debugging Teams - Better Productivity Through Collaboration' (http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920042372.do). Here's a great excerpt:

"In order to reach collaborative nirvana, you first need to learn and embrace what we call the “three pillars” of social skills. These three principles aren’t just about greasing the wheels of relationships; they’re the foundation on which all healthy interaction and collaboration are based.

Humility

You are not the center of the universe. You’re neither omniscient nor infallible. You’re open to self-improvement.

Respect

You genuinely care about others you work with. You treat them as human beings, and appreciate their abilities and accomplishments.

Trust

You believe others are competent and will do the right thing, and you’re OK with letting them drive when appropriate."

Think about those three things.

Re: Ask HN: New attempt at mobile markup – keep or bail?

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post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given a choice between this and the old non-mobile-optimized site, I'd take the latter. Everything is too squished on smaller iPhones.

Really? It looks kind of bad, but is more functional methinks.

I'm on an iPhone 5s. It looks the same as your screenshot, and I am not a fan at all. When it first loaded I assumed something was buggy with the browser or the css. I would like the option to go back to the old version.

Re: Ask HN: New attempt at mobile markup – keep or bail?

#157

The margins are a bit too big (Chrome, Galaxy S6) http://i.imgur.com/MYTVihG.jpg

I get similar margins on an iPhone 4s running iOS 7. It's quite a bit of wasted space - maybe 15-20% of total screen width.

Other than that, it's a big improvement.

Re: Ask HN: New attempt at mobile markup – keep or bail?

#159
Please keep it but like everyone else has said, there's still a lot to be done.

Even better, why not just ask for community help? There are already a few skins/viewer sites already that do this just fine that you can takeover or just ask for some volunteers.

This site is very very simple and would take just a few hours or perhaps a weekend of time to get a nice new layout. Why not be efficient and end up with a better product?

Re: Ask HN: New attempt at mobile markup – keep or bail?

#160
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Huge improvement (iPhone 6s). Now that you're returning to different results for mobile vs not: how about Upvote on the left (where it is) and downvote on the right of "hours ago"? I don't want the buttons bigger (and I suspect others don't either) but I would prefer not to accidentally up/downvote incorrectly.

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