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Re: Refugees Welcome

#153
This seems potentially dangerous to me. As someone with experience dealing with refugees, they often go through untold horrors in their journey. They often need counselling, friendship, purpose (often in the form of employment). It's good that they have this "refugee buddy" concept but it's not clear to me from their website if there is adequate support for the volunteer if they have to deal with these needs.

Each volunteer should consider carefully if they are able to meet these needs and fill these roles (triply so if you have children).

If everything works out, this could be very rewarding for everyone. If not, it could be catastrophic.

Re: Refugees Welcome

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Sincerely. I'm European, I'm from Euro zone. I walk in the streets in my country's capital at night and a see dozens of homeless hungry people just by walking a couple of Km. I just can't put my head around on why we should help the refugees before we help our own people. It just doesn't make any sense to me. We are giving millions to find houses for these refugees/migrants but we let our own live and die on the stre…

Allowing refugees is a feel good band aid. Yes it does directly benefit those who gain asylum but it does nothing to help the majority left behind. The real solution is to make positive changes in their homelands, bg force if necessary. This dilly dallying helps no one except radicals bent on violence and the corrupt regimes and Russia's meddling. Europe needs to do something. Sometimes you do need violence to make t…

Applied force in their homelands - often at our (the West's) hands - is exactly what is driving many of these migrants.

Re: Refugees Welcome

#155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many destitute people do you house in your own home? Why only that number and not more? If zero, why is that? What percentage of your income are you donating to support refugees? Why is that percentage not higher?

Ooo, there's a hefty underlying assumption in your post. I have previously taken people off the street, three times. I do not currently have anyone living in my home because I have moved back to my disabled Mums which is a 3 bedroom house already with 5 people living there. Why am I living at my Mums? I give 100% of my time to helping others and i'm in the process of starting a social enterprise to develop technology…

slow clap.

Re: Refugees Welcome

#156
post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Allowing refugees is a feel good band aid. Yes it does directly benefit those who gain asylum but it does nothing to help the majority left behind. The real solution is to make positive changes in their homelands, bg force if necessary. This dilly dallying helps no one except radicals bent on violence and the corrupt regimes and Russia's meddling. Europe needs to do something. Sometimes you do need violence to make t…

Applied force in their homelands - often at our (the West's) hands - is exactly what is driving many of these migrants.

You're talking about past action. I mean at this moment. Assad and daesh are the ones which need to be addressed.

Re: Refugees Welcome

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thankfully, I don't think people with an attitude like that would take them in the first place.

Part of my job is contingency planning... The obvious thought is how nice and kind this all is, but what if after the 2 week honeymoon period you want the person to move out? It can happen with friends when someone needs to crash for a few weeks/month or so and people get tired of not living their normal lives, so why not with a stranger? If that person has literally nowhere else to go and no money, are you really go…

The website gives at least some insight to that problem:

>What happens if we don't get along?

In this case the same will happen as in any other shared flat: You try to find a solution together - if necessary we will help out. A buddy accompanies each placement process as an additional contact person (more information sign up as a buddy). If this does not work, there is the possibility to dissolve the housing situation.

Re: Refugees Welcome

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post #130

Sincerely. I'm European, I'm from Euro zone. I walk in the streets in my country's capital at night and a see dozens of homeless hungry people just by walking a couple of Km. I just can't put my head around on why we should help the refugees before we help our own people. It just doesn't make any sense to me. We are giving millions to find houses for these refugees/migrants but we let our own live and die on the stre…

The outcome of this will be from our children and grandchildren.

Most European children will not be able to afford housing as good as their parents and will not have the job stability their parents enjoyed. Their parents pensions will be larger than their wages.

Eventually a tipping point will be reached. History tells us what will follow.

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It "amazes" me why these "refugees" flock to Germany or Great Britain and not to their very wealthy brethren in countries such as Kuwaii, Egypt, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Arab Emirates, etc... Same culture, same religion and they are much closer! It also amazes me why the EU leaders insist for other European countries to accept these "refugees" when the majority of EU countries is not responsible for this situation at all…

Actually Europe is very much responsible, only a small percentage flees to our countries and the reason is clear: People at least think that life in Europe is much better and in some cases they are correct. Please learn about the situation and not just judge it.

Why is Europe very much responsible? Also, please define Europe to avoid any confusion with the European Union or Western Europe.

Re: Refugees Welcome

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It "amazes" me why these "refugees" flock to Germany or Great Britain and not to their very wealthy brethren in countries such as Kuwaii, Egypt, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Arab Emirates, etc... Same culture, same religion and they are much closer! It also amazes me why the EU leaders insist for other European countries to accept these "refugees" when the majority of EU countries is not responsible for this situation at all…

> European countries to accept these "refugees" when the majority of EU countries is not responsible for this situation at all. I'll pass over the casual xenophobia implicit in your post (just for you info, Lebanon has over 1 million Syrian refugees for a population of ~4.5 million, Jordan has ~600,000 refugees for a population of ~8 million), I just want to mention how the whole Middle East fuck-up is the result of…

Then let's blame those specific countries, not the whole Europe. Hungary for example doesn't seem responsible.
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