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Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by thoth »

psykovsky wrote: post #83
lmm wrote: post #63

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> Plus, as soon as email isn't a suitable format to exchange information, I have the impression that the communication is either too broad (shout to the public) or trivial (one liners about nonsense). I don't get it. What do you do when you want to organize a party/group trip to a concert/etc. and invite several people? * Email and reply-all? This means you annoy people who can't make it (they keep seeing all the rep…

Maybe someone should do a startup with a service like that. It could be called Meetup.com or something.

I just remembered another thing Facebook lets you do that Meetup doesn't: have a virtual group.

All Meetup groups have to be face-to-face group with the intention of physically meeting, so if you want to organize your online play-by-email board games or whatever, or other groups that don't actually intend to meet very often (e.g. class alumni groups mostly for the purpose of distributing info), you can't have either of those be a Meetup group.

But Facebook doesn't care if you do that.

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by arankhanna »

butwhy wrote: post #16

Feature request: auto-click-on every conversation you've had in messenger when you navigate to /messages so you don't need to do it manually. Considering it doesn't persist past a reload...

I actually didn't want this to be used as a tool to "auto-stalk" your friends so I didn't add features such as this one (however feel free to fork the code and add it yourself)

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by simplemath »

spacemanmatt wrote: post #124
smokinn wrote: post #60

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Glympse does this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.glympse.an...

Does it still suck raw eggs? I wanted that functionality but found Glympse too horrible to use at the time, a while back.

Works fine for me, with the caveat of using it inside vzn's message+

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by jfaat »

kuschku wrote: post #136
userbinator wrote: post #131

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Indeed. ~2m is the limit of accuracy for a typical smartphone GPS - I've gotten down to 1.3m when standing in an open area for >10 minutes with 12 satellites in view, but that's an exceptional case. In practice, accuracy will be in the 5-10m range. It doesn't make it any less creepy though... which then begs the question of how the number of people wanting to send their location would change with how "approximate" of…

My phone – which combines GPS with GLONASS – usually gets about 40m accuracy with just GPS, but with combined GPS and GLONASS I have about 24 satellites in view, even in buildings, getting better than 1m precision.

In fact, the vast majority of modern smartphones support GLONASS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smartphones_supporting_...

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by __z »

FreakyT wrote: post #93
CookieMon wrote: post #91

I use this facebook app now: http://i.imgur.com/Iyd43n6.png (Android) It's either a well written FB app, or a no-permissions jail around Facebook's own hybrid-app/mobile-site. GPS no longer turns on, and messaging works for me.

I've found that just running Facebook's mobile site in Chrome works pretty well for most purposes.

My last phone had Facebook as one of those apps that you couldn't uninstall. I was so pissed, I've never had any sort of Facebook app on my phone nor do I want one. Even if I never signed in. Absurd.

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by __z »

pmlnr wrote: post #108
thoth wrote: post #99

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I've had 3 or 4 Meetup groups fold and migrate to Facebook, because Facebook offers basically the same features and some nice extras: allows private/hidden groups (invite only; Meetup can hide the memberlist and require approval to join but the group existence is still searchable) free (Meetup currently charges ~$70 for 6 months; source: I'm an organizer for a Meetup group and that's our semi-annual bill. I'm not sur…

maybe, but just maybe, paying cash is better than paying with every information available on your phone.

Facebook groups don't require a cellphone. I participate in one (much to my dismay... but that's where the group is...) and I never "Facebook" on my cell phone - messenger, "app," website... none are loaded on my phone or ever used on my phone.

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by bduerst »

chadgeidel wrote: post #140
orthoganol wrote: post #43

I find it hard to grasp why any intelligent individual who knows what goes on with Facebook would still voluntarily remain on Facebook. "Ah but the social ostracization!", seemingly the main reason why otherwise intelligent, informed people do stay on Facebook, just doesn't hold up anymore, as too many cool, socially active 20-somethings I know or are acquainted with have moved off of Facebook, mostly in last 1-2 yea…

"Any intelligent individual" knows that all social networks track location/behavior. "Any intelligent individual" knows that DOJ/NSA/cell providers can track your position with your cell phone. "Any intelligent individual" knows that a collection of HTTP requests can quickly identify patterns in behavior and preferences. "Any intelligent individual" knows that a few purchases with the same credit card number builds a…

I think they're conflating "intelligent individual" as sharing their own personal opinions on sharing meta data.

I could say that "intelligent individuals" don't project their personal views on favorable demographics, but then I would be doing the same.

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by __z »

corobo wrote: post #51
beagle3 wrote: post #13

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Yes, it is. Maybe not physically abusive, but definitely emotionally and trust-ly abusive. You think you are in a relationship with facebook, but facebook is secretly also in a relationship with all kinds of three letter agencies, state actors and advertisers - and tells them everything you told facebook.

If you know it and can prove it, it's not a secret. Advertisers definitely not secretly, you can easily see what information advertisers see at facebook.com/ads Facebook only knows what you are telling it, maybe don't announce your next bank robbery on your status update and you'll be alright

Facebook doesn't only know what you are telling it - Facebook knows a lot about you even if you don't have a Facebook account. They create "shadow profiles" of non-users through info about you your friends give to Facebook. They may also track non-users through Facebook beacons and "like" buttons placed on other sites.

Plus Facebook can very trivially figure out where you work without you telling them. Let's say a colleague lists they work at Initech. They then create a group called "co-workers" and add you to it. Now Facebook can do some very simple datamining and figure out you work at Initech. You betcha they do that.

Even if you don't have an account and browse the web like RMS, you still probably have a shadow profile unless you have no friends. If a friend gives the Facebook app permission to view it's phonebook (typical) and you are in it now Facebook knows and stores everything about you that's in your friend's phonebook - name, email, phone number, possibly home address, etc. This is one way it creates shadow profiles.

Facebook has face recognition software - need I say how much they can gather about you if your friends post pictures of you online?

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