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Wakemate (YC S09) helps you kiss groggy mornings goodbye

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Re: Wakemate (YC S09) helps you kiss groggy mornings goodbye

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Love the idea of this. Pre-ordered.

I pre-ordered, but there was absolutely no info about whether or not it ships internationally (even after paying). Hopefully they'll be shipping outside the US!

the free shipping to the UK and the aggressive price point was what got my pre-order. A while back I was looking at the FitBit, which specifically said 'we only ship to US right now'. FitBit should partner with a shipping specialist, since the device is small, and people like me would be willing to pay quite a lot of postage.

Re: Wakemate (YC S09) helps you kiss groggy mornings goodbye

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Often the time you have to wake up is dictacted by factors out of your control (get to work/lecture/event at a certain time)

Can the downvoter let me know why this is down voted when it's a valid/decent point?

i'm not the downvoter, but the device does let you specify limits for when you have to be up.

Re: Wakemate (YC S09) helps you kiss groggy mornings goodbye

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, talking about this and reading what links I could find from your originally linked article, as well as reading up on Claudio Stampi leaves me no more illuminated. Stampi's book Why We Nap is out of print, my library does not have a copy, and I can't find any other references to actual studies that prove the arguments against polyphasic sleep, though the opinion of most folks does seem to be that it's not a replac…

SwellJoe, I'm with you in that the "debunkers" seem quite dogmatic. Then there are people who have had personal success with polyphasic sleep and rave about it, typically doing it for a period of months but not on a permanent basis. Science doesn't have a lot to say, and everyone else is left wondering what to think. References I found enlightening about the actual practice of it (in favor of it) are the book Ubersle…

The debunkers are cultish because the proponents are cultish. Just like atheists are cultish in response to cultish cults.

If reducing delta wave sleep by 10% significantly decreases performance on memory and reasoning tests, why should reducing delta sleep by 90% fail to decrease performance?

Lots of studies are done on sleep, but they are never as extreme as polyphasic because it would be considered unethical to perform those studies. Those few insane people like me who actually did go polyphasic don't get scientifically tested.

It did work for me but I recognized that my performance had decreased because at the time I was in memorization-oriented schooling and using Anki to manage my memorization tasks. With the help of Anki, I could see quite clearly that my memorization abilities had decreased.

It was also never a natural state. It was a constant state of heightened autonomic response - fight or flight. Especially at nighttime, my body was surging with corticosteroids. This stress response is what provides the capability to stay awake so long, but it comes at the price of high-level thinking and memorization.

Typically in nature, humans will adopt polyphasic sleep in times of war and other extremely stressful situations. This is adaptive because their life is threatened. This is not the case for the modern knowledge worker.

There is tons of science on sleep. The polyphasic people base their theory on the outdated and discredited idea that we only need REM sleep. This has been categorically disproven by modern sleep researchers. Slow wave sleep provides many benefits, the most clear being improved memory but also better performance on other cognitive tasks.

Re: Wakemate (YC S09) helps you kiss groggy mornings goodbye

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claudio Stampi tested all the various forms of reducing sleep and found polyphasic - the uberman style - to be the best out of them all. At the same time, he found that polyphasic sleep results in poorer performance compared to normal sleepers. And this was considered non-noteworthy, since obviously 2 hours of sleep is worse than 8. You can find his articles on Google Scholar. Steve Pavlina is the only person I know…

So, talking about this and reading what links I could find from your originally linked article, as well as reading up on Claudio Stampi leaves me no more illuminated. Stampi's book Why We Nap is out of print, my library does not have a copy, and I can't find any other references to actual studies that prove the arguments against polyphasic sleep, though the opinion of most folks does seem to be that it's not a replac…

AFAIK Claudio Stampi is the only person to test polyphasic directly because since then it has been considered unethical to directly test polyphasic. (The Geneva Convention considers it torture, afterall)

See my reply here as well: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=963502

Re: Wakemate (YC S09) helps you kiss groggy mornings goodbye

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This looks like the same technology used in the ubiquitous sleeptracker. http://www.sleeptracker.com/ I've heard complaints that it doesn't accurately monitor your sleep cycles because it uses an accelerometer which obviously doesn't work if you don't move enough. There is a product called Zeo that supposedly detects your brainwaves but then people complain about having to wear a strap on your head. http://www.myzeo.…

My father and I both enthusiastically tried the sleeptracker when it first came out. I am horrible for waking up in the morning, and this did not help one bit.

The article asks why they did not put the alarm in the watch - the sleeptracker chooses that exact strategy and it did not work well for either of us. One, the alarm was not that loud (probably cannot be that loud in such a design). Two, if you had your wrist under your pillow it was inaudible. And three, the alarm is trivially accessible and easy to turn off - not a good thing for an inventive and persistent snooze buttoner like myself.

The product was a huge disappointment to the both of us. The price point and design for this product are encouraging - I will probably try it out.

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Congrats on finding a hair-on-fire problem, and totally rooting for you guys. Just 2 weeks back I ordered an aXbo ( http://www.axbo.com/axbo/CMS/CMS.aspx?Language=E ) for the same purpose, but this is a much more convenient implementation.

The axbo uses similar technology and works well, but it is much more expensive, more difficult to use and less comfortable. Also they do not do any of the sleep analysis and personalized recommendations on how to improve the quality of your sleep.

I tried the axbo and it didn't work at all.
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