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Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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post #139

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How much would a Google search cost me if it wasn't ad supported?

Some numbers from 2009 say 1.18 cents/search: https://web.archive.org/web/20110201052634/http://billwarner... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2110938

Yea but the question is impossible to answer. Google would have had to balance many differ factors, both of which would have changed as they grew larger.

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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Man, ads are great. They allow content to be targeted towards people that could potentially not afford the content and towards people that might not necessarily use the product normally. The world is already significantly divided by wealth. Assuming someone poor even has access to a service like Google, imagine if it was behind a paywall. Could they afford it? If not imagine how much of a life advantage someone wealt…

tracking != advertising

advertising hosted on the same domain as the website might not track you beyond the domain itself. But since most websites share common ad networks those ad networks can effectively track you while showing their ads.

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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Man, ads are great. They allow content to be targeted towards people that could potentially not afford the content and towards people that might not necessarily use the product normally. The world is already significantly divided by wealth. Assuming someone poor even has access to a service like Google, imagine if it was behind a paywall. Could they afford it? If not imagine how much of a life advantage someone wealt…

You're trying too hard.

Before Google the Internet was more useful. Smaller and more content focused. I'd gladly go back to hotbot or whatever to get away from Google and their ilk.

A combination of disconnect, Adblock pro, and self destructing cookies gets me there.

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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Man, ads are great. They allow content to be targeted towards people that could potentially not afford the content and towards people that might not necessarily use the product normally. The world is already significantly divided by wealth. Assuming someone poor even has access to a service like Google, imagine if it was behind a paywall. Could they afford it? If not imagine how much of a life advantage someone wealt…

You're trying too hard.

Before Google the Internet was more useful. Smaller and more content focused. I'd gladly go back to hotbot or whatever to get away from Google and their ilk.

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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post #107
post #105

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I "did the /etc/hosts" thing for a long time. But it seemed like some things hung and tool longer sometimes. Overall /etc/hosts was a big improvement. Where are the good lists and what is the current thing you map all the bad hosts to (is it localhost, or something else?)?

It hangs because it waits to time out. It will fail faster if you set the IP to something impossible instead of merely unavailable.

0.0.0.0 works well for that purpose since it's invalid as a remote address

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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post #38

It's interesting to think of this as a nuclear option for Firefox. The only incentive they have not to turn it on immediately is that it could poison relationships with site owners such that they stop testing their sites on Firefox or outright block Firefox users, but if Firefox market share ever diminished to the point where site owners were already neglecting Firefox then I see no reason why Mozilla wouldn't damn t…

I also wonder how ad providers with a greater scope than just advertisements would react to this. For instance, take Facebook—their ecosystem encompasses ads, social features, and login/identity management at this point. If we get into an arms race at some point, I could see this getting ugly if these other features become collateral.

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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post #79

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I specifically emphasize on the home page of the project [1]: "uBlock Origin (or uBlock₀) is not an ad blocker; it's a general-purpose blocker." It will report everything to the user -- including behind-the-scene network requests [2]. --- [1] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock#philosophy [2] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Behind-the-scene-netw...

So this firefox feature is just a subset of what ublock does? BTW, thanks for ublock.

If I remember correctly from the presentation (I was at W2SP where the associated talk was given) there were unspecified performance benefits over having this outsourced to the plugin architecture. I can't download the paper right now for some reason, but I'm sure it's detailed in there.

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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Man, ads are great. They allow content to be targeted towards people that could potentially not afford the content and towards people that might not necessarily use the product normally. The world is already significantly divided by wealth. Assuming someone poor even has access to a service like Google, imagine if it was behind a paywall. Could they afford it? If not imagine how much of a life advantage someone wealt…

You're trying too hard. Before Google the Internet was more useful. Smaller and more content focused. I'd gladly go back to hotbot or whatever to get away from Google and their ilk. A combination of disconnect, Adblock pro, and self destructing cookies gets me there.

I am trying to hard?

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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And your condescension is irritating. Apple seems pretty solid on the protection of users' privacy. Devices are encrypted by default, for example, and there are robust protections from rogue applications in place. Is there are specific practice that Apple engage in that makes you think they are particularly reckless regarding users' privacy?

He's comparing Apple to Google. In that respect, Apple comes out looking pretty bad. Google's devices are also encrypted by default and have much more robust protections against rogue applications in place (both static and dynamic automated analysis of apps for malware, vs. just a human eyeballing it).

Android devices aren't encrypted by default, Google backtracked on that.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/03/google-quietly-backs-...

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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And your condescension is irritating. Apple seems pretty solid on the protection of users' privacy. Devices are encrypted by default, for example, and there are robust protections from rogue applications in place. Is there are specific practice that Apple engage in that makes you think they are particularly reckless regarding users' privacy?

He's comparing Apple to Google. In that respect, Apple comes out looking pretty bad. Google's devices are also encrypted by default and have much more robust protections against rogue applications in place (both static and dynamic automated analysis of apps for malware, vs. just a human eyeballing it).

And yet, with all that wonderful "automated" malware checking Google is also now manually reviewing App.

http://blog.lifars.com/2015/03/18/google-now-manually-review...

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