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You don't like the source, lah? Take this one instead: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-01-06/what-retir...
please, don't use "lah" or any other form of Singlish. it's condescending and, worse, embarrassing for you when you get the syntax wrong, as in this case.
Lee Kuan Yew, Founding Father and First Premier of Singapore, Dies at 91
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Re: Lee Kuan Yew, Founding Father and First Premier of Singapore, Dies at 91
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Let me clap for you because you have 2715 karma, you who look to have wasted all these trips to our region (how can you travel so much, yet absorb so little). Our entire nation is in mourning, but please do feel free to take keep taking uneducated potshots at a dead man using recycled sound-bites from the 90s, and displaying exactly why freedom of speech is overrated. We will return to pit our unsubstantiated anecdot…
"Asshole's dead. Good riddance. Stole power on a platform of communism, moved to totalitarianism / familial nepotism, set up his 'wealthy, modern' state by money laundering for Burmese junta, struck up a cheap friendship with US (easy sale: naval positioning for the straits, cable taps on comms, aggressively purchasing regional comms providers in places like .au), did a PR job on .sg's great 'democracy'. His biograph…
Re: Lee Kuan Yew, Founding Father and First Premier of Singapore, Dies at 91
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I'm a Singaporean. I've worked in opposition politics. I'm going to be voting this year. Here are a few thoughts: - your understanding of the Lees in Singapore have no historical context. You cannot view his leadership in a vacuum. You cannot look at Singapore politics and say it needs a dash of 'Western liberalism & democracy' and proclaim Chee Soon Juan one of its administrators. LKY, and the Singapore of his time,…
Oh, I actually agree with most (but not all) of what you say. The Workers Party is the only viable opposition at the moment, but this is largely because they are very careful to "play by the rules" and not antagonize the Government too much. What worries me, though, is that they are allowed to exist at the Government's forbearance. If they start to pose a real threat to the PAP's dominance, everything I've seen leads…
They can't even get a newsletter going without fighting about it -> level of disorganization and in-fighting.
Re: Lee Kuan Yew, Founding Father and First Premier of Singapore, Dies at 91
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Oh good god. As a Singaporean (who has worked in the opposition politics no less) I am sick and tired of Chee Soon Juan the megalomaniac who can't get basic economics right, being treated as our saviour. He is not.
Opposition politics in Singapore? Welcome to hell.
You guys don't make my job any easier by shitting on Singapore whenever you get the chance to, without even the least interest in learning the truth about it.
Re: Lee Kuan Yew, Founding Father and First Premier of Singapore, Dies at 91
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Every other way is up for debate? We have a good education system, and I would not trade our healthcare system for what you're likely used to; as a gay Singaporean, I have no curtailing of my social freedoms. I cannot marry or adopt legally yet, but that's the conversation that we're soon going to have (and which the "West" has only just recently gotten). The civil service is good. More can be done for the low income…
Well, as a gay Singaporean, I assume you are familiar with section 377A of the penal code that makes having sex or trying to pick up a date punishable by two years in prison? And that your parliament is basically unanimously in favor of retaining it, with overwhelming public support?
I'm not comfortable with blanket statements about Singapore politics and society from armchair political scientists.
Re: Lee Kuan Yew, Founding Father and First Premier of Singapore, Dies at 91
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So we are too corrupt or are we too authoritarian? After all we just jailed a man over pineapple tart corruption. NKF is not the government. That's kind of like saying that TSA molests people, and that the federal government is responsible for it.
It's possible to be both. Do not tolerate protest, and also promote family members to run state organisations.
Re: Lee Kuan Yew, Founding Father and First Premier of Singapore, Dies at 91
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Opposition politics in Singapore? Welcome to hell.
At least I'm trying. You guys don't make my job any easier by shitting on Singapore whenever you get the chance to, without even the least interest in learning the truth about it.
Re: Lee Kuan Yew, Founding Father and First Premier of Singapore, Dies at 91
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Most people here are ideologically committed to western concepts of freedom. It doesn't matter how good the results are as long as things aren't done their way.
What is your version of freedom?
Re: Lee Kuan Yew, Founding Father and First Premier of Singapore, Dies at 91
#149Asshole's dead. Good riddance. Stole power on a platform of communism, moved to totalitarianism / familial nepotism, set up his 'wealthy, modern' state by money laundering for Burmese junta, struck up a cheap friendship with US (easy sale: naval positioning for the straits, cable taps on comms, aggressively purchasing regional comms providers in places like .au), did a PR job on .sg's great 'democracy'. His biography…
> set up his 'wealthy, modern' state by money laundering for Burmese junta D'oh! I've been wondering how Singapore's low-taxing government accumulated all the capital that it invested, and that answer is so obvious: they took it from people somewhere else . Would you mind pointing me to a book that fills in the details?
Re: Lee Kuan Yew, Founding Father and First Premier of Singapore, Dies at 91
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I'm a Singaporean. I've worked in opposition politics. I'm going to be voting this year. Here are a few thoughts: - your understanding of the Lees in Singapore have no historical context. You cannot view his leadership in a vacuum. You cannot look at Singapore politics and say it needs a dash of 'Western liberalism & democracy' and proclaim Chee Soon Juan one of its administrators. LKY, and the Singapore of his time,…
Oh, I actually agree with most (but not all) of what you say. The Workers Party is the only viable opposition at the moment, but this is largely because they are very careful to "play by the rules" and not antagonize the Government too much. What worries me, though, is that they are allowed to exist at the Government's forbearance. If they start to pose a real threat to the PAP's dominance, everything I've seen leads…