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The volume is too damn high on flights

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Re: The volume is too damn high on flights

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> I wear them in the car Hopefully not while driving though :)

Why not? Attenuating all sound doesn't have a huge impact on what you're able to hear.

Indeed; to the contrary, I find myself hyper-aware of sounds when wearing attenuative hearing protection.

Re: The volume is too damn high on flights

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The PA system is not there just to provide something to listen to in case you are bored. Yeah, but there's no reason for the people operating the PA to blast our ears for mundane drivel. I was on a flight last weekend where, because I was right next to a speaker, I had to cover my ears for 5 minutes while the flight attendant droned on about non-emergency stuff. It was so loud it hurt my ears. I already have tinnitus…

The PA system is used to announce to the cabin non-trivial details: emergency exits, how the safety features of the airplane work, what is expected of passengers during the flight, flight times, expected turbulence, late arrivals, etc. These are not "mundane" details.

As well as stuff like how much drinks cost, what you might see out the left side of the plane, where to find a catalog of ridiculous items you would never buy, etc.

Re: The volume is too damn high on flights

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post #125

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The PA system is used to announce to the cabin non-trivial details: emergency exits, how the safety features of the airplane work, what is expected of passengers during the flight, flight times, expected turbulence, late arrivals, etc. These are not "mundane" details.

It's mundane when everyone is keenly aware of the details.

You cannot assume everyone does. You certainly did not when it was your first time on a plane.

Also if you get on a new model plane, things might be different.

Re: The volume is too damn high on flights

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A very good private party DJ(He plays for artist and actors) told me that if you want people to dance, the volume must be very high. As it was my party I told him to do it as he saw fit and indeed almost all the people (200) danced. Then one neighbour complained and he lowered the volume (just for a while ;) ) and most people stopped dancing almost immediately. When he boosted the volume again, they all jumped to dan…

> former s.XIX coastal battery fortress For a second there I thought that was one hell of a typo but I found out that "s. XIX" is the Spanish way to write "19th century". "Siglo" is another word for century. Now I'm wondering... why? And why use Roman numerals? Was this originally a Catholic thing?

Orthotypography has a lot of differeces between languages. In Spanish we don't capitalize all words in titles, use romans for centuries, different rules for quotation marks, and a long etc. Nothing to do with catholicism that I'm aware of.

Re: The volume is too damn high on flights

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I've always wondered why bars crank up the music so high to the extent you're yelling to convey conversation to the person next to you. One of my friends hypothesized that it was done to focus patrons on drinking and not chatter, but socializing is a big part of the bar scene... Anyone know?

A very good private party DJ(He plays for artist and actors) told me that if you want people to dance, the volume must be very high. As it was my party I told him to do it as he saw fit and indeed almost all the people (200) danced. Then one neighbour complained and he lowered the volume (just for a while ;) ) and most people stopped dancing almost immediately. When he boosted the volume again, they all jumped to dan…

former s.XIX coastal battery fortress

Please could you tell the place? Menorca by chance?

Re: The volume is too damn high on flights

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The PA when heard over the headphones (when watching a movie, etc.) is even worse - I wouldn't be surprised if it was over 100dB. Sometimes a movie has quiet audio, or quiet moments requiring you to turn up the volume a lot. More than once I have been painfully ear-raped by the flight attendant PA system in my earphones for this reason. Just another instance of outrageously bad customer service in the airline industr…

I flew several years ago on American Airlines around the time they were promoting the feature-length airline advertisement Up in the Air. [1]

I dozed off with my headphones plugged in, listening to something relaxing on a low volume. Several times I was awakened without warning when they showed the film trailer at full volume. Boy did that piss me off.

[1] http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/21/business/media/21adco.html

Re: The volume is too damn high on flights

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I've always wondered why bars crank up the music so high to the extent you're yelling to convey conversation to the person next to you. One of my friends hypothesized that it was done to focus patrons on drinking and not chatter, but socializing is a big part of the bar scene... Anyone know?

Relatedly, does anyone know why so many bars with live acts crank the volume up so high that it becomes extremely loud white noise with thumping bass under it? It really sucks if you want to hear the music, and the point at which it's ears-ringing-the-next-day and clothes-vibrating loud but you can still at least tell when a key change happens is usually well under where they set it. I love small venues, but I hate h…

>does anyone know why so many bars with live acts crank the volume up //

I'm going to go with the roadie who did the sound check is hard of hearing through standing next to big speakers and using loud music on in-ear phones; they set the level and then boost it to allow for the crowd.

Some people don't like to listen to music they like to feel it - if it's not giving you the disturbing feeling you're having palpitations then it's not loud enough! Discos for the deaf are like this apparently.

Re: The volume is too damn high on flights

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Few thoughts: > and opened the decibel meter on my iPhone These are notoriously inaccurate. To get accurate decibel readings, the mic must be calibrated to absolute known levels (something your App can't do). The App's are basically just comparing relative sounds (this sound is more prominent than this other one, and therefore must be louder... after establishing some relative baseline). Real decibel measuring equipm…

I often take issue with the "pilot greeting". Many pilots just ramble on and on. Often on and off throughout the entire flight. I really don't care nor do I want that blaring in my ears. I don't understand why airlines think this is a good idea.

Different strokes, I suppose. If the pilot is saying something interesting I'd otherwise miss ("look out your left for a cool view of xxx), I'm happy to hear it. I also prefer to hear status updates during the flight.

Re: The volume is too damn high on flights

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Those look a bit bulky for use by police or military in the field. You would need to miniaturize down to an in-ear version. Then you need to add very generous padding in your procurement contract. If an over-the-ear tech is available for civilians for $70, I would guess that an in-ear police/military version is $850, with an upsell option to integrate with your existing radio communications system for only $1150 per…

These seem to be more along the lines of what is issued: http://archive.armytimes.com/article/20090908/NEWS/909080313... > Soldiers can adjust the rocker with a quick "click" depending on the amount of protection they need. When it's in the open or "weapons fire" position, sound can travel through the sound channel filter into the ear. > For noisy environments that don't require an acute listening capability, such as…

For those hitting the paywall on the the first link, the in-ear protection resembles 3M Ultrafit earplugs, with a hole bored through the center. The rocker switch may be lengthening or diverting the pass-through channel, like the rotary valves on a tuba or French horn. A longer or narrower channel would provide more attenuation of all sounds. It may also simply be closing and opening the channel.

They don't seem to have variable attenuation based on the acoustic energy, though. If the soldiers find them to be acceptable everyday gear at all, there would certainly be funding available to engineer improved internals.

The over-ear comms-integrated rig is priced at double my estimate for what an in-ear version might sell for, which tells me that I was probably underestimating.

Re: The volume is too damn high on flights

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As a father and fan of live music: I get cranky when I see kids without ear protection, especially toddlers and younger, who have no control or way to escape. I make a point of praising the parents who put ear muffs on their infants.

Why make the music so loud as to require hearing protection? That seems inefficient.

Because you don't have control over how loud a band is playing at a live festival. So you can either complain about something you can't change, decide to not attend an event you want to attend, or do what you can to fix the problem.
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