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Re: Hi, It’s Google Corporate Development

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Post by cpncrunch »

presootto wrote: post #101
MCRed wrote: post #41

For a period I was heavily recruited by google. Their recruiters tried a great many variations of attempts to trick me into interviewing for a job. It seems weird that they would do this, because pretty soon, it would become obvious that it was a job interview and nothing more. Maybe there are a lot of talented engineers out there who are doing startups but aren't really committed to them and google manages via the f…

A lot of recruiters at Google are temps and will lie through they're teeth in order to get candidates interested. Google still has a reputation of being an amazing workplace. This, however, is becoming less and less true. Just last week Victoria Lease resigned after months of sexual harassment without any consequence for the perpetrators. There are much better places to work for then Google these days. Disclaimer: I…

You have been bitching about google for the past year, including saying that Eric Schmidt should be put in jail. You say you are Rachel Whetstone, senior vice president of communications and public policy for Google. However it seems unlikely that Rachel would say some of the stuff you have come out with.

Please don't feed the troll.

Re: Hi, It’s Google Corporate Development

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Post by JabavuAdams »

kelukelugames wrote: post #109
presootto wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of recruiters at Google are temps and will lie through they're teeth in order to get candidates interested. Google still has a reputation of being an amazing workplace. This, however, is becoming less and less true. Just last week Victoria Lease resigned after months of sexual harassment without any consequence for the perpetrators. There are much better places to work for then Google these days. Disclaimer: I…

> Just last week Victoria Lease resigned after months of sexual harassment without any consequence for the perpetrators. I find this hard to believe because if you are smart enough to work at Google then you should be smart enough to know your rights. If the harassment is persistent and comes from multiple perpetrators then she can build a timeline to show HR, a lawyer, or the EEOC.

Please educate yourself on these issues. Your claim ignores reams of historical experience on why people choose not to report abuse. Even if someone knows their rights, there are many possible reasons for not reporting abuse. Finally smart != informed, so this is quite a leap to base an argument on.

Re: Hi, It’s Google Corporate Development

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Post by kllrnohj »

presootto wrote: post #101
MCRed wrote: post #41

For a period I was heavily recruited by google. Their recruiters tried a great many variations of attempts to trick me into interviewing for a job. It seems weird that they would do this, because pretty soon, it would become obvious that it was a job interview and nothing more. Maybe there are a lot of talented engineers out there who are doing startups but aren't really committed to them and google manages via the f…

A lot of recruiters at Google are temps and will lie through they're teeth in order to get candidates interested. Google still has a reputation of being an amazing workplace. This, however, is becoming less and less true. Just last week Victoria Lease resigned after months of sexual harassment without any consequence for the perpetrators. There are much better places to work for then Google these days. Disclaimer: I…

> There are much better places to work for then Google these days.

Well, yes, as those places don't employ you.

Re: Hi, It’s Google Corporate Development

#144

Post by jaysonelliot »

unreal37 wrote: post #140
jaysonelliot wrote: post #132

I'm having an incredibly hard time mustering up sympathy or concern for someone who feels they were "scammed" into interviewing for a job that could come with a $2 million signing bonus. Even if it were the "golden handcuffs" situation someone posited in this thread, where the money would come over three or four years, it's a situation most people would be pleased as Punch to find themselves in. Naturally, everyone t…

I think you read a lot of things into this article that aren't there. This isn't about some entitlement to more money. The article is about deceptive recruiting practices at Google. Phone calls and emails filled with lies. Why would Google even need to lie about a potential acquisition (and name drop the founder) when they aren't even looking for one? The OP just wants the Google person to say, "Hi, I'm from Google H…

The author himself says right in the article that he felt entitled to much more than $2 million.

I explain again that I’ve already built an £X million company in this area that was limited to the UK & Ireland; this time it’s global and I can easily get to twice £X million. I don’t know what Silicon Valley numbers are like, I say, but surely even there acqui-hire numbers don’t go as high as twice £X million? She replies that it’s usually a maximum of 2 million. I guess that’s dollars.

If he was unhappy with the way Google approached him with their generous rock-star offer, he could simply turn them down and move on. A lengthy blow-by-blow essay seems like pointless complaining about a problem 99% of the world would give their eyeteeth to have.

Re: Hi, It’s Google Corporate Development

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Post by Terr_ »

presootto wrote: post #101
MCRed wrote: post #41

For a period I was heavily recruited by google. Their recruiters tried a great many variations of attempts to trick me into interviewing for a job. It seems weird that they would do this, because pretty soon, it would become obvious that it was a job interview and nothing more. Maybe there are a lot of talented engineers out there who are doing startups but aren't really committed to them and google manages via the f…

A lot of recruiters at Google are temps and will lie through they're teeth in order to get candidates interested. Google still has a reputation of being an amazing workplace. This, however, is becoming less and less true. Just last week Victoria Lease resigned after months of sexual harassment without any consequence for the perpetrators. There are much better places to work for then Google these days. Disclaimer: I…

Do Google recruiters ever have details about roles or what details of your resume "interested them", or am I pretty much always dealing with someone seeking to throw random bodies into a big input hopper?

Re: Hi, It’s Google Corporate Development

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Post by vidarh »

jaysonelliot wrote: post #132

I'm having an incredibly hard time mustering up sympathy or concern for someone who feels they were "scammed" into interviewing for a job that could come with a $2 million signing bonus. Even if it were the "golden handcuffs" situation someone posited in this thread, where the money would come over three or four years, it's a situation most people would be pleased as Punch to find themselves in. Naturally, everyone t…

Part of the background here is his previous sale of a business in the same market, that he felt justified certain value assumptions on his end, coupled with being approached in a manner that he at least felt indicated they were looking to acquire the product, rather than primarily looking to hire him.

Even so, the article several times point out that maybe he was naive about how these things works. I read it more as a cautionary "look here how the recruiters worked over naive me" than unwarranted whining.

Re: Hi, It’s Google Corporate Development

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Post by unreal37 »

jaysonelliot wrote: post #144
unreal37 wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you read a lot of things into this article that aren't there. This isn't about some entitlement to more money. The article is about deceptive recruiting practices at Google. Phone calls and emails filled with lies. Why would Google even need to lie about a potential acquisition (and name drop the founder) when they aren't even looking for one? The OP just wants the Google person to say, "Hi, I'm from Google H…

The author himself says right in the article that he felt entitled to much more than $2 million. I explain again that I’ve already built an £X million company in this area that was limited to the UK & Ireland; this time it’s global and I can easily get to twice £X million. I don’t know what Silicon Valley numbers are like, I say, but surely even there acqui-hire numbers don’t go as high as twice £X million? She repli…

Again, it's about deceptive recruiting practices. The author thinks his app is worth more than $2M. Hey, good for him. And most of us are not in that position. But it's not about that. It's about a series of lies to get him to interview for a job. They should just ask him to interview for a job instead of trying to trick him into that by making him feel like Sergey Brin is personally interested in his app.

Re: Hi, It’s Google Corporate Development

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Post by simi_ »

sanderjd wrote: post #137
ovulator wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"What's wrong with this country? Can't a man walk down the street without being offered a job!?"

Yeah all the comments on here about being tricked into job interviews just seem so crazy to me. Is google really so desperate to interview people? I've always heard they get tons of applications and that it's incredibly difficult (and time consuming) to get an offer after an interview with them, so why would they be going through all of this trouble to get people in the funnel? I'm really not sure what to make of it…

I'm CTO at a small startup in a small-ish city in Germany. Every time we advertise a position we get _tons_ of applicants, and yet that doesn't mean anything. Good and reliable engineers are _very_ hard to find and recruit. We've managed to crop together a rock solid team, but only by sheer dumb luck (and getting burned several times).

Re: Hi, It’s Google Corporate Development

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Post by tymekpavel »

ahelwer wrote: post #118
spaulo12 wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Salary + bonus + RSUs. It all depends on your grants, perf, etc.

That's pretty broad. What, $150k base for a good engineer then $50k cash bonus and $50k stock? That gets us to the lower end, and it's already way above the upper end of what I've heard. Are we talking about your average engineer in mid-career, or is this 10x 100x rockstar 0.1% could-totally-happen-to-you-though BS?

I've seen interns regularly get offered full-time positions with 100-120k base + 100k RSUs. It's not at all unusual.

Re: Hi, It’s Google Corporate Development

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Post by joeblau »

api wrote: post #44

"It’s a ridiculous idea — touch your phone against each wall and get a floor plan." Uhh... no it's not. Make that actually work and show it to some architects, interior designers, and real estate people. Be sure to have a mop on hand for drool.

Estimote does this with beacons: http://estimote.com/indoor/. I've been using their SDK and it's pretty good.
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