No, the Skype killer has another name: WebRTC. And Wire seems like yet another closed-source GUI making use of the WebRTC stack. I honestly prefer FOSS solutions: Tox, oTalk, Jitsi, etc... oTalk looks really promising
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#142No, the Skype killer has another name: WebRTC. And Wire seems like yet another closed-source GUI making use of the WebRTC stack. I honestly prefer FOSS solutions: Tox, oTalk, Jitsi, etc... oTalk looks really promising
Have not heard mainstream users or kids or grannys using any of those? Are they popular?
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#143So in the age of Edward Snowden this is all they say about encryption... "Are Messages And Calls Encrypted? Yes. Wire uses industry-standard encryption on all of your Wire messages and calls." "WHAT SECURITY MEASURES DO WE TAKE TO SAFEGUARD YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION? We are concerned about safeguarding the confidentiality of your information. We provide physical, electronic, and procedural safeguards to protect infor…
Guardian article has a bit more details regarding the privacy and encryption. http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/dec/03/wire-commu...
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#144So in the age of Edward Snowden this is all they say about encryption... "Are Messages And Calls Encrypted? Yes. Wire uses industry-standard encryption on all of your Wire messages and calls." "WHAT SECURITY MEASURES DO WE TAKE TO SAFEGUARD YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION? We are concerned about safeguarding the confidentiality of your information. We provide physical, electronic, and procedural safeguards to protect infor…
Did they also mention their business model anywhere ?
Also how the European laws protects us about anything ?
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#145I'm a little curious. I use Skype semi regularly and it seems to work just fine for me. But it seems everyone here hates it. Are there some "power user" features that don't work well or something?
- Impossible to grok as a network admin, as it aggressively tries to work on EVERY network (even when only port 80 is available etc.)
- The transition from P2P to centralised means that we enjoy all the downsides of a centralised system (hello NSA) AND all the downsides of P2P (no reliable offline messages, esp. with multiple devices)
- The iPhone version is 100% custom UI, looks and acts like a Windows Phone app, and has dropped several features (App Store reviews have not been very favourable)
- Closed source, non-sandboxed and from a surveillance-friendly company
- A resource hog
That said, Wire looks like a complete non-starter to me.
Re: Wire – Modern Communications Network
#146So in the age of Edward Snowden this is all they say about encryption... "Are Messages And Calls Encrypted? Yes. Wire uses industry-standard encryption on all of your Wire messages and calls." "WHAT SECURITY MEASURES DO WE TAKE TO SAFEGUARD YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION? We are concerned about safeguarding the confidentiality of your information. We provide physical, electronic, and procedural safeguards to protect infor…
Did they also mention their business model anywhere ? Also how the European laws protects us about anything ?
Quoting http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/dec/03/wire-commu...
"It’s in our terms of use: we’re not going to look at your data and cultivate it for advertising," said Christensen. "We’re not going to put advertising in the client. My head of design would kill me! It’s more about finding the right kind of opportunities that are additive to the user experience, and that they’re motivated to pay for. We’ve found what we think are a couple of good ones."
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#147I signed up and downloaded the app (android).
1. The App uses different non-standard patterns. It's really a pain to use and navigate. 2. The design is cool and I like it. 3. I should be able to find users by ID or similar.
Who wants to test this thing can add me (contact -at- omarabid.com )
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#148The UI may look pretty, but its totally unusable for me. It took me ages to figure out how to make a call.
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#149So in the age of Edward Snowden this is all they say about encryption... "Are Messages And Calls Encrypted? Yes. Wire uses industry-standard encryption on all of your Wire messages and calls." "WHAT SECURITY MEASURES DO WE TAKE TO SAFEGUARD YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION? We are concerned about safeguarding the confidentiality of your information. We provide physical, electronic, and procedural safeguards to protect infor…
You should consider that most other messengers offer no such promises, even vague ones.
Telegram seems to put their money where their mouth is.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
I really disagree. There's simply no good secure cross-platform messaging app available. Telegram has fantastic clients on all the platforms, but isn't secure. TextSecure is secure, but has only a mediocre app on a single platform (Android). The other alternatives are even worse. Tox is looking really promising though: https://wiki.tox.im/FAQ
What about Threema? ( https://threema.ch/en )
tbh I trust on Threema the same way I trust on Whatsapp or any other client which promises encryption.
Threema is closed sourced and thus I don't know which/how encryption are they actually using.